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Oklahoma doing some work on prison reform

Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:49 pm
Posted by CarrolltonTiger
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2005
50291 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:49 pm
" Oklahoma now has the highest incarceration rate in the United States, unseating Louisiana as No. 1 in the country, according to a new study. Oklahoma's incarceration rate is 1,079 per 100,000 people, with Louisiana at 1,052 per 100,000."

And they are doing this with a much smaller Black population.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78985 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:53 pm to
Any idea why ?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27204 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:56 pm to
For context, the US average is 655, the highest in the world. The next closest country is El Salvador at 610.
Posted by Lsujacket66
Member since Dec 2010
4796 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:57 pm to
So um... what’s the reform?
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9656 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 3:59 pm to
I live on my farm in Oklahoma now full time that I've had for several years. I moved from California about 6 months ago. I would guess drug related crimes and property crimes like theft, burglary, etc.
Posted by FinebaumsHair
Monroe, La
Member since Aug 2017
3001 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 4:01 pm to
quote:

Any idea why ?


Lots of drunk arse Indians
Posted by redneck hippie
Stillwater
Member since Dec 2008
5602 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 4:09 pm to
quote:

Any idea why ?


Meth. Plain and simple. In the early 90s rural parts of southern Oklahoma were ground zero for the meth epidemic that eventually spread across the rest of the US. We still haven’t recovered.
Posted by Tridentds
Sugar Land
Member since Aug 2011
20503 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:05 pm to
quote:

For context, the US average is 655, the highest in the world. The next closest country is El Salvador at 610.


Out of curiosity...I wonder what the US rate would be if we didn’t count all of the illegals in our prisons?
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
35120 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:06 pm to
quote:

wonder what the US rate would be if we didn’t count all of the illegals in our prisons?


Or if we stoped keeping people alive for 50 years just for them to die In prison.

Put a bullet in their head and be done with it.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
23965 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:10 pm to
This is bullshite, there have to be some blacks we missed.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27204 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

Out of curiosity...I wonder what the US rate would be if we didn’t count all of the illegals in our prisons?


It would obviously go down, but not by much. They simply don't make up a large percentage of the total prison population:



ETA: They explode out the chart substantially in other graphics if you are interested: https://www.prisonpolicy.org/reports/pie2018.html
This post was edited on 6/9/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34858 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:12 pm to
quote:

This is bullshite, there have to be some blacks we missed.


Or some lawyers.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
SE OK
Member since Aug 2014
9656 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:13 pm to
quote:

rural parts of southern Oklahoma


That's where my farm is. While i was living in California, some tweaker meth heads tried to steal my tractor, a trailer and some other equipment. Luckily the only thing they could make it off with was a 3 point post hole digger.
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34858 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:17 pm to
I've read that 20-30% of California's prison population are illegals.
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17282 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

Any idea why ?


A part of it is historic. Look on old maps. Before it was "Indian Territory", Oklahoma was "Outlaw Territory".

Outlaws passed on their "values" to their offspring who in turn passed down to theirs, and here we are today. After all, if the 1st generation has no morals, values, and ethics they cannot somehow miraculously educate/instill their kids with them. The same goes on and on. Basically what we see in urban environments, just applied to a larger geography.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
27204 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 5:39 pm to
quote:

I've read that 20-30% of California's prison population are illegals.


Quite possible. I honestly have no idea.

But as far as national numbers, we're talking 2% or less.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7665 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 6:47 pm to
dammit!

we were finally number one in something and those azzholes had to take it from us
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
24977 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 7:30 pm to
I don't know, man. I live in Oklahoma. My 19 year old stepson got busted earlier this year for possession of a stolen pistol (affc)... for the third time. All three times there were drug charges included. And one time involved a kidnapping charge. He's sat in county jail 7 total months. Never seen a prison and probably won't as long as he doesn't actually attempt to or kill someone.

I keep hearing about our high incarceration rates, and those people must be doing some really bad shite because all the stuff my stepson and his buddies have done, and they're all roaming free.

And for those that said
quote:

meth
that's definitely the number one issue here. I mean, by far. It's a fricking catastrophe.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 7:32 pm to
Undocumented Americans?
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
18073 posts
Posted on 6/9/18 at 7:39 pm to
Couldn't expect anything different from a state that made thc extraction a life felony.
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