re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

It's not that the war is ending, it'll never end. It's the manner in which we may be leaving.

How are we leaving?

Which bases are closing?

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They did rise up. They got slaughtered by the thousands

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They rose up and backed down. The Ukrainians rose up and have been fighting a war with the Russians ever since. I’m all for supporting people who will fight for themselves but frick anyone who expects us to do their fighting for them.

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The Iranian people failed to rise up against the IRGC when they had the chance. They could have fought for their country like the Ukrainians have done since 2013. So they can kiss our arse if we get a deal that stops Iran from getting a nuke.

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That would be like the North Korean people rising up to knock off kim jung un and his regime.

Iran is a similar type police state. The people are going to need help if they ever do try to rise up. They tried before in 2009 after a rigged election and obama wasted an opportunity to help the people overthrow the scum regime(we later understood why obama stood by, because he is an ardent supporter of the thugs in Tehran), instead this is what happened after the protests were violently put down:

"Opposition groups also reported thousands more were arrested and tortured in prisons around the country, with former inmates alleging mass rape of men, women, and children by the Islamic Revolutionary Guards in prisons"


They didn't kill 40,000 protesters in 2009, but they did in 2026 because they learned from 2009
But the prison torture and abuse will be repeated again because Trump had these scumbags down on the mat and is letting them get back up. Trump lost his nerve. Pray for the Iranian people.

Trump has F-ed up this opportunity.

The IRGC has been calling Trump’s bluff for the past month plus, basically daring him to blow them off the map. Now it looks like they were right all along

Here's a copy and paste of the NY Times article:

Iran Agreed to Give Up Enriched Uranium in Deal Announced by Trump, U.S. Officials Say

Precise details were unclear but the officials said the U.S. demanded a commitment from Iran on uranium as part of any initial agreement.

Julian E. Barnes

By Julian E. Barnes

Reporting from Washington
May 23, 2026, 8:56 p.m. ET

One key element of the proposed agreement between Iran and the United States is an apparent commitment by Tehran to give up its stockpile of highly enriched uranium, according to two U.S. officials.

White House officials did not return requests for comment. President Trump said on Saturday that the United States was close to reaching an agreement with Iran toward ending the war and reopening the Strait of Hormuz. But he provided no details, and it was not clear what hurdles might remain to closing a deal.

U.S. officials said that the proposal did not settle the issue of precisely how Iran would give up its stockpile, putting off the details for a coming round of talks on Iran’s nuclear program.

But a general statement that Iran will commit to doing so, a longtime goal of the United States, is critical to the deal — especially if the overall agreement is greeted with skepticism by Republicans on Capitol Hill.

Iran has made no public statements on the agreement that Mr. Trump announced.

Iran originally balked at including in this apparent initial phase any agreement on its stockpile of highly enriched uranium, demanding that it be put off until the second stage of talks. But U.S. negotiators said that they made clear to Iran through intermediaries that without some agreement on the stockpile in the initial part of the deal, they would walk away and resume their military campaign.

Military planners have developed options for Mr. Trump in recent days to bomb Iran’s stockpile, most of which is thought to be at the Isfahan nuclear site. That site was hit by U.S. Tomahawk missiles last June, burying for now the highly enriched uranium.

Among the options discussed was hitting Isfahan with bunker-busting bombs to try to destroy the stockpile underground.

After Iran gained access to the uranium following the strikes last summer, Mr. Trump considered authorizing a U.S.-Israeli commando raid to retrieve the stockpile. The dangerous mission, which could have possibly exposed U.S. and Israeli forces to heavy casualties, was never approved by Mr. Trump.

Iran has a stockpile of about 970 pounds of uranium enriched to 60 percent, according to the International Atomic Energy Agency.

As part of the Obama administration’s 2015 nuclear deal, Iranian officials handed their stockpile over to Russia, something they could do again. They could also seek to convert their stockpile to a level of enrichment that could not be made into a nuclear weapon.

Those nuclear talks, set to begin in the weeks or months to come, will address how to dispose of the stockpile and how to deal with Iran’s enrichment program. The United States had sought a 20-year moratorium on enrichment. Iran had offered a far shorter moratorium.

A key component of any deal would involve the release of billions of dollars in frozen Iranian assets abroad. Iran will only get access to the bulk of those assets that the United States and allies would put into the reconstruction fund once they agree to a final nuclear deal, giving Iran an incentive to stay at the table and make an agreement, the U.S. officials said.

Julian E. Barnes covers the U.S. intelligence agencies and international security matters for The Times. He has written about security issues for more than two decades.

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Urgent | New York Times on US officials: Iran has agreed to give up enriched uranium in the deal announced by Trump

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I'm glad something about giving up the dust is at least in the draft, because it will give us the right- the obligation in fact - to back out of the deal once Iran inevitably refuses to actually hand it over. As they have repeatedly made public statements that they would refuse to do.

This is starting to look more and more like a mechanism to reduce gas prices before the midterms, with the full expectation that the conflict will pick up again later.

Iran offered to dilute their uranium in their pre-war offers and we rejected that and started the war. Either the dust leaves Iran and goes to a non-ally of Iran, or it's just smoke and mirrors.