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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:26 am to cypher
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:26 am to cypher
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The Virtual Embassy Tehran urged US citizens to leave Iran immediately after the country’s airspace partially reopened on Tuesday.
In a security alert, the embassy said US citizens should monitor local media for updates and consult commercial carriers for flights out of Iran.
It added that Americans could also depart by land through Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Turkmenistan.
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:27 am to BayouBengal51
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Iran's Foreign Ministry spokesperson to BBC:
Iran has not yet decided whether it will join the next round of talks with the U.S. late this week in Islamabad.
"If we reach the conclusion that going to Islamabad serves our national interests, we will go there."
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:28 am to ColoradoAg
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I think Trump just wanted to go in, prove a point, and leave. He doesn't have the balls to follow through.
That is Iran's advantage in the shooting war. They know, as you and I know, that Trump does not want an extended shooting war. America doesn't want an extended shooting war. No one wants to have to invade Iran. The threat of expanded hot war is meaningless because we won't do it.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:32 am to BayouBengal51
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-Some believe that Vahidi wants to kill Qalibaf and Araghchi
Would the assassination of Vahidi and other hardline IRGC be a violation of cease fire? We will get nowhere until the leaders of the IRGC are gone and the regular Iranian military can take over. Who heads the Iran military?
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:34 am to Chinese Bandit Boy
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Iran has been hit by a massive wave of redundancies, both directly and indirectly as a result of the conflict with the US and Israel.
Its Deputy Work and Social Security Minister, Gholamhossein Mohammadi, said two days ago that two million people had lost their jobs because of the war.
The widespread lay-offs are one of the biggest topics of conversation among ordinary Iranians on social media. Employers and government officials euphemistically refer to it as "balancing the workforce".
The impact goes far beyond factories closed down after being hit by air strikes. It also includes other manufacturers, retailers, import and export business, and the digital sector.
"You can see it from the emptiness of the metro," posted one user on X. "You can see it from the abundance of parking spaces near the office," said another. "You can get it from the emptiness of the Hemmat [highway in Tehran]. My one-and-a-half hour journey took only half an hour," came another comment.
Does this sound like something a winning side would do?
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:34 am to BayouBengal51
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The Virtual Embassy Tehran urged US citizens to leave Iran immediately after the country’s airspace partially reopened on Tuesday. In a security alert, the embassy said US citizens should monitor local media for updates and consult commercial carriers for flights out of Iran. It added that Americans could also depart by land through Armenia, Azerbaijan, Turkey and Turkmenistan.
Hold up. We have US citizens in Iran? WTF is this?
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:36 am to TBoy
I think you are missing the point of what trump has done. he got a multi week air campaign to degrade Iran's military and IRGC leadership. with their navy and airforce basically gone, he is now free to blockade iran with them not able to do anything other than lob missiles and threaten/attack other countries shipping.
had the US/Israel not degraded the iranian air force/Navy, it is harder to hold a blockade. now, all trump needs to do is financially collapse the country with his blockade.
Time is NOT on Iran's side.....contrary to what the media narrative....
Iran will be shutting in oil wells soon if they dont have a place to send their oil. They will be running out of imported goods, and they will not have income from exports....the economy will crater
had the US/Israel not degraded the iranian air force/Navy, it is harder to hold a blockade. now, all trump needs to do is financially collapse the country with his blockade.
Time is NOT on Iran's side.....contrary to what the media narrative....
Iran will be shutting in oil wells soon if they dont have a place to send their oil. They will be running out of imported goods, and they will not have income from exports....the economy will crater
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:42 am to tigeraddict
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I think you are missing the point of what trump has done.
That's intentional on his part.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:45 am to TBoy
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That is Iran's advantage in the shooting war. They know, as you and I know, that Trump does not want an extended shooting war. America doesn't want an extended shooting war. No one wants to have to invade Iran. The threat of expanded hot war is meaningless because we won't do it.
For once in a blue moon, I agree with some of what you said. Ideally US goals of regime change will be accomplished without any ground action by US troops. That may work, but it'll take a while.
I don't agree that the threat of ground action is meaningless. We may well find ways to weaken the regime with sporadic use of ground forces against specific targets throughout the country. If they make an attempt to mobilize forces against our forays, they open themselves up to destruction from above.
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:46 am to chalupa
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Hold up. We have US citizens in Iran? WTF is this?
Maybe they are some of the "immigrants" that go home and visit their families and vacation in the place they came from.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:47 am to wdhalgren
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:48 am to BayouBengal51
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:51 am to tigeraddict
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Time is NOT on Iran's side.....contrary to what the media narrative....
I agree with you completely. We are in a much stronger position with the focus of the conflict being on control of the shipping lane. Iran shifting the battle to the waterway plays into America's naval and air strengths.
It did not appear that the initial bombing campaign was a set up for a battle over Hormuz. Trump seemed surprised by Iran's move in closing the Strait. But I will take it.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:54 am to BayouBengal51
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Iran has not yet decided whether it will join the next round of talks with the U.S. late this week in Islamabad.
Iran's Islamic Republic leadership is fractured into competing camps with nobody really in charge to make decisions.
It seem apparent that we have mostly reached the limits of airpower alone while the IRGC and other thugs burrow into their holes on the ground.
I hope there is are a lot of cards we aren't showing.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 9:56 am to ColoradoAg
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He doesn't have the balls to follow through.
Weird melt... like you seem to be confusing Trumps actions with President Carter's actions...
Wake up.. you are living in 2026!!
Posted on 4/22/26 at 10:04 am to tigeraddict
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Iran will be shutting in oil wells soon if they dont have a place to send their oil. They will be running out of imported goods, and they will not have income from exports....the economy will crater
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 10:04 am to wdhalgren
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I don't agree that the threat of ground action is meaningless. We may well find ways to weaken the regime with sporadically use of ground forces against specific targets throughout the country
I agree. You have to think there are some important targets in smaller cities or the outskirts of cities that either us or our friends could send in special forces to attack.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 10:10 am
Posted on 4/22/26 at 10:07 am to Ailsa
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Maybe they are some of the "immigrants" that go home and visit their families and vacation in the place they came from.
Or the "immigrants" who engage in massive fraud to steal millions in US tax dollars and then go home with suitcases full of cash to fund terrorist activities in the place they came from.
Posted on 4/22/26 at 10:21 am to PsychTiger
This is also a way to force either Iran to show that Khomani II is alive and managing this disaster, and thus he is a hardliner, or he is incapacitated/dead and it has all went farce and the IRGC has been lying to the population about ruling based on his edicts.
Time is on the US’s side as long as the blockade stays in place and it just boxed the IRGC into a tighter corner.
Time is on the US’s side as long as the blockade stays in place and it just boxed the IRGC into a tighter corner.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 10:30 am
Posted on 4/22/26 at 10:32 am to Auburn1968
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I hope there is are a lot of cards we aren't showing.
Well their oil wells are about to get ruined from sitting there being unused and not properly shut down because the storage is just about filled up. Additionally, with the blockade in place, supplies will start to be come scarce. Unfortunately that affects the innocent Iranians as well, but puts a huge strain on the Regime.
Also their income flow has been cutoff and as a result, no one is getting paid and after a while when you can't buy food, water and necessities, defections will escalate. Resources will become scare soon in the cities and you will start seeing things fall apart rapidly.
The blockade is putting immense pressure on them, and if they don't come to the table within the next handful of days, their infrastructure will soon be taken out and then all kinds of misery will be dealt to the regime.
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