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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by Auburn1968
NYC
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 1:54 pm to
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Protestors are dead bro, the IRGC killed all 45 quintillion of them.


A lot of the survivors crave revenge.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 2:00 pm to
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You think the MOU is shitty? Who cares! Its an MOU. If they dont perform in 60 days, the bombs drop again.


The bombs won't drop again, because the MOUs 60 day deadline is not set in stone. It's extendable and the regime will play the game until midterms to see if the GOP loses the majority in both houses. If that happens, the IRGC will care not about anything in the MOU and go right back to what they were doing before because they know there will no consequences.

They have already tested that theory and found out it will be successful because they never called off their Hezbollah dogs, in violation of the MOU, yet no bombs have started to drop on their heads. Trump issued several red lines and deadlines throughout the 10 week period leading up to the MOU that they blew through with impunity. He showed the world and the enemy he will let that happen again and they will take advantage of that.

The Qatar threat will not be ignored because Trump loves that investment and it's optics. He won't turn down an investment that is now said to approaching close to $20 Trillion in the near future. He sat there for most of the G7 with the Emir of Qatar to his immediate right watching him like a hawk as Trump sang Qatar's praises and gave the Emir of Qatar glowing reviews.

Qatar purchased time and an outcome for it's BFF. Qatar, the worlds #1 state sponsorship of terror, and our leadership is rubbing elbows with them, singing their praises and suddenly making moves that benefits them directly.

One of our top negotiators, Witkoff, Trump's best friend, was given a no strings attached bailout from Qatar when he lost his arse with no cash repayment necessary. What do you think they did that for? Kindness out of their own hearts? No, their repayment plan was that they would have influence in the admin to further their agenda. That's how this shite is played in DC and world wide.

The bombs will not fall again on Iran's head anytime soon. The 60 days will be extended at nauseam. This will dominate the headlines until midterms and the Iranian regime will live to terrorize another day.

The only way the regime gets its shite pushed in again by the USA is if they go too far in their bullshite because they believe they are invincible and do something that cannot truly be ignored.

Hey, I'd love to be absolutely fricking wrong about all of that but I fear I'm not. I'd love Trump to be the leader I thought he was and supported. If he proves me wrong, I'll be one of the first ones to jump in and take my licks and admit it, but the way things look now, I fear that won't be the case.
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Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29923 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:01 pm to
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They called him to stop and not do a third night.


More like Qatar called and said they were not going forward with their several trillion dollar investment in the USA. That's what stopped and brought about this current situation.

There was a Qatari delegation in Tehran for over 17 hours straight that did not leave until the announcement of the ceasefire and the MOU. That's not a coincidence that Trump suddenly changed course while they were involved with the negotiations.

I've broken down earlier in the thread what most likely happened here. It will be about 50 years down the road before all the details finally come out, when all the major players of this issue are dead and gone.

The world will eventually see dirty Qatari money was the center of the USA's sudden capitulation, in a conflict that our military was running roughshod over it's opponent until the leadership called off the dogs and started a 10 week period of waffling and wavering that ended with this shitty MOU that really accomplishes nothing but kicking the can down the road.


Qatar and Israel both put serious money into the US economy, but the scale and style are completely different.

Qatar is operating on another level. Through its sovereign wealth fund and related entities, it has directed something like $400 billion into the US since around 2000. That covers big real estate plays, energy infrastructure like LNG terminals in Texas, defense contracts, major Boeing orders, stakes in sports teams, university funding, and a range of other sectors. New pledges are even larger, with talk of hundreds of billions more over the next decade. A lot of this is state directed capital aimed at diversification and building ties.

Israel's presence is more modest and focused. Official investment stock in the US hovers around $22 to $24 billion in recent years. It comes mostly from private tech companies expanding here in areas like software, cybersecurity, medical devices, and industrial tech. It is steady work that plays to Israel's strengths as an innovation hub rather than giant sovereign check writing.

Qatar recycles hydrocarbon wealth through big strategic moves while Israel drives growth through private sector expansion. Keep in mind the numbers are not always apples to apples since Qatar's totals often include broader commitments beyond standard foreign direct investment. Qatar has used its economic clout in the US and West for well over a decade to exert influence on policy debates. It supports media outlets, universities, think tanks, non-profits, and causes that frequently align with Muslim Brotherhood-linked viewpoints, which critics argue amounts to sustained disinformation and political pressure aimed at weakening Israel. This influence is also widely cited as a key factor in why the US has not designated the Muslim Brotherhood as a terrorist organization, despite repeated calls from members of Congress as well as governments like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Egypt.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:07 pm to
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More proof that European countries have been taken over by radical Islamists.

The Ministry of Foreign Affairs in Denmark cooperates with a Palestinian organization that, in the run-up to the attack on Israel on October 7, trained people from the terrorist group Hamas.

The collaboration has consisted of, among other things, support to the organization of more than 80 million Danish tax kroner ($608,000,000 in USD). The organization even trained police forces from the terrorist group before the October 7 attack.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 3:08 pm
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:21 pm to
And now for a palette cleanser:

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SHADOW WARTHOGS HOME FROM IRAN — Exclusive Nose Art Drop at Moody AFB

These A-10C Thunderbolt IIs just rolled back onto the flight line at Moody AFB after flying combat operations in support of some very sensitive work over Iran.

A follower trusted me with these exclusive shots straight from the ramp. For obvious OPSEC reasons I’m not going any deeper on the missions, the units, or the timelines, but the jets themselves are talking loud and clear.

Swipe through this insane collection of nose art and mission markings:
Doc Holliday staring you down with “Criminals + Vagrants… BEWARE.”
The Grim Reaper himself mid-swing.
King Dedede living his best life.
Diddy Kong riding a jet engine like it’s a banana barrel.
Samus Aran locked and loaded in full power suit.
Macho Man Randy Savage — “The Cream of the Crop.”
Lil Mac throwing hands with the “K.O.” tally.
And Ridley, the Metroid nightmare, repping on the final frame.

These aren’t just morale paint jobs. Look at the rows of mission tallies and ordnance marks along the fuselages, every single one represents a real sortie into contested airspace. Did you guys catch the two boats??

One of these Warthogs was directly involved in the combat recovery of an F-15 pilot and weapons officer who went down over Iran. In the background of the shots you can see the F-15 tail with the words “That Others May Live”, the sacred motto of the rescue forces. When the call came, the A-10 answered. Close air support, on-station protection, and the quiet work of bringing our people home.

This is the side of airpower that stays in the gray. No fanfare. No press releases. Just lethal, ugly, beautiful Warthogs doing what they were built to do, and then disappearing back into the shadows until the next time they’re needed.

Huge respect to the crews who flew these jets home and to the follower who shared them with me.
Posted by exiledhogfan
Missouri
Member since Jul 2021
1350 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:25 pm to
Let me ask a simple question.

There are, let's say, conservatively, 100,000 IRGC members left. That's almost assuredly several tens of thousands under the actual number. Those guys are fighters. They aren't gonna tuck tail and run home.

So, you're saying we should arm regular ol' Iranians. How many would we have to arm to have a fighting chance against 100,000 trained fighters? Twice as many? Three times? Five times? Let's say it's just double.

How in the hell are we gonna get 200,000 weapons and ammo into Iran?
Posted by tigervet4
Member since Sep 2006
2416 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 3:40 pm to
Well you might want to get comfortable while you wait for the Iranian people surrender their country so they can turn out like Syria.
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13480 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:21 pm to
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Let’s go over the things said by Trump, Rubio and Vance since Feb 28 and count the lies, if you can count that high

So Rubio lied about not running if Vance did? He was very specific.

Everyone good with that?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:31 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
10601 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
10027 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:49 pm to
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The IAEA found natural uranium, with signs of chemical processing, indicating that processed uranium derived from yellowcake was handled at these facilities. Samples were taken in June 2025, and the origin of the material has not yet been disclosed.

The facilities are supposedly linked to North Korean assistance, and Syria has been a proxy of Iran until the Assad regime fell in 2024. The new regime under Al-Sharaa has been cooperating with Trump and the IAEA.

Trump has been hunting down rogue nuclear threats all over the world, this entire time. North Korea, Syria, Iran.

Remember when Trump struck Syria in 2017, and then the US, France, and UK, conducted joint strikes on Syria in 2018? Was it just about chemical weapons?

Testing the uranium in Iran is just a formality. Trump and the US MIL already know. They’ve been hunting down the entire global network.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
10027 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 5:53 pm to
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The IAEA worked with us to retrieve the uranium in Venezuela just last month.

Trump has the situation under control. Nobody is going to pull a fast one on us
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
27392 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:24 pm to
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Let me ask a simple question.

There are, let's say, conservatively, 100,000 IRGC members left. That's almost assuredly several tens of thousands under the actual number. Those guys are fighters. They aren't gonna tuck tail and run home.

So, you're saying we should arm regular ol' Iranians. How many would we have to arm to have a fighting chance against 100,000 trained fighters? Twice as many? Three times? Five times? Let's say it's just double.

How in the hell are we gonna get 200,000 weapons and ammo into Iran?


That is not how guerilla warfare works. Just a few hundred (there are many more than that available) can really have a huge impacts because they don't engage in firefights with the enemy like conventional troops.

They blow up an IRGC car and are never seen when the IRGC comes in to fight the perps because they drift away into the population.

They rain hell on a check point for 20 seconds and then disappear.

They walk up behind an IRGC as he walks down the street off duty and put a bullet in his head.

They don't need to out number them. One side has a uniform the other does not. One side walks amongst a population that hates them. The other does not.
Posted by MrLSU
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/19/26 at 6:57 pm to
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Iranian MP Ebrahim Azizi threatens a harsh response if the US fails to implement Article 1 of the MOU which is an end to IDF defensive actions in Lebanon. Hezbollah is attacking Israel troops but he wants the US to force Israel into stop defending itself.
This post was edited on 6/19/26 at 6:58 pm
Posted by remaster916
Alabama
Member since Oct 2012
13086 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 7:17 pm to
Bring it on
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1646 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:23 pm to
no

if it was that simple, we wouldve done it by now. its by far the cheapest way of achieving regime change with less blood on our hands
the fact no action has been taken means US Intelligence thinks that scenario is unlikely to succeed
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
8866 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 9:44 pm to
Many of the top Iranian leaders who were behind the murder of many Americans over the last 47 years are dead. Iran's enriched uranium is under 1,000 feet of rubble. Their air force and navy have been destroyed. Many military installations have been destroyed. Their radar and anti-aircraft capabilities have been decimated. The Iranian economy is in the tank. There is infighting among the different factions of the regime. Yet delusional and brain-dead people say the Iranian situation is a mess.

Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
13536 posts
Posted on 6/19/26 at 10:09 pm to
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Their air force and navy have been destroyed

All except for the part that controls the Straight of Hormuz
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