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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:45 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:45 pm to
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How long before pipelines are built to negate the Strait's bottleneck?


UAE is already working on that. They said they have plan in place that will make them completely independent from the SOH for having to move oil.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:37 pm to
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UAE is already working on that. They said they have plan in place that will make them completely independent from the SOH for having to move oil.


That’s cool and all, but you can still hit pipelines just like a ship. Easier too since it doesn’t move and is hundreds of miles long. It doesn’t really pull the teeth of Iran.
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:53 pm to
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That’s cool and all, but you can still hit pipelines just like a ship.


Crude pipelines require above ground pumping (booster) stations. Many only 30-50 miles apart, depending on the thickness of the crude. They can easily disrupt the flow of a crude pipeline. It just won’t be in international waters, it would be on someone’s soil.
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 8:12 pm to
And Im just pointing out if you believe the irgc is run by a bunch religious fanatics.......you believe the democratic party is run by a bunch of fat blue hairs protesting at immigration facilities.

Its money and power, neither of which they have right now, no matter how much the MSM wants to project it.
Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 7:27 am to
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Crude pipelines require above ground pumping (booster) stations. Many only 30-50 miles apart,


More like an average of 150 miles between pumping stations.

We still need to to Iraq, Kuwait and Qatar. Bahrain imports oil from Saudi Arabia to refine.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:30 am to
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The US-Iran talks in Qatar, the Qatari version versus the Iranian version, are two completely different versions:

Qatari Foreign Ministry Spokesperson:

Witkoff and Kushner will arrive in Qatar to meet with the mediators and discuss the progress of the negotiations.

The $6 billion in frozen Iranian funds has not yet been transferred to Tehran.

The transfer of the frozen Iranian funds will be carried out by agreement between the two sides.

We appreciate France's participation in clearing the mines from the Strait of Hormuz.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson:

We have no plans to meet with Americans at any level in the coming days.

There was no plan to hold a meeting with the Americans at any level from the beginning, so there is no question of such a deliberate return.

The talks in Doha are about implementing clauses from the memorandum of understanding, and they will be held with the Qatari delegation.

The implementation of the clause dealing with the release of Iranian assets is in progress, and we hope that the process will end with the desired result.

The removal of mines from the Strait of Hormuz is the sole responsibility of Iran
Posted by alphaandomega
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 9:44 am to
quote:

More like an average of 150 miles between pumping stations.

We still need to to Iraq, Kuwait and Qatar. Bahrain imports oil from Saudi Arabia to refine.


Pipelines would be good but better would be to kill the mullahs and IRGC. Remove them and the threat is drastically reduced.

We also need to really invest in anti drone weapons, maybe lasers. Something that could attack numerous threats at the same time. Some land based, on ships and even mounting on large drones. Basically an iron dome that could be used to remove their ability to strike anyone.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:02 am to
More IRGC bums got rolled up

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BREAKING: IRGC MEMBERS SHOT DEAD IN WESTERN IRAN

Iranian state television says two members of the Revolutionary Guards were shot dead in the Kermanshah area of western Iran.

Two others were reportedly wounded by gunfire.

The regime is describing the incident as a “terrorist attack.”

The shooting comes after earlier reports of clashes and gunfire in the border county of Paveh, in Iran’s Kurdish-majority west near the Iraqi border.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:20 am to
quote:

The US-Iran talks in Qatar, the Qatari version versus the Iranian version, are two completely different versions:

Qatari Foreign Ministry Spokesperson:

Witkoff and Kushner will arrive in Qatar to meet with the mediators and discuss the progress of the negotiations.

The $6 billion in frozen Iranian funds has not yet been transferred to Tehran.

The transfer of the frozen Iranian funds will be carried out by agreement between the two sides.

We appreciate France's participation in clearing the mines from the Strait of Hormuz.

Iranian Foreign Ministry Spokesperson:

We have no plans to meet with Americans at any level in the coming days.

There was no plan to hold a meeting with the Americans at any level from the beginning, so there is no question of such a deliberate return.

The talks in Doha are about implementing clauses from the memorandum of understanding, and they will be held with the Qatari delegation.

The implementation of the clause dealing with the release of Iranian assets is in progress, and we hope that the process will end with the desired result.

The removal of mines from the Strait of Hormuz is the sole responsibility of Iran


I disagree with the bolded part. Both statements essentially say the same thing in different ways.

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Witkoff and Kushner will arrive in Qatar to meet with the mediators and discuss the progress of the negotiations.


quote:

We have no plans to meet with Americans at any level in the coming days.

There was no plan to hold a meeting with the Americans at any level from the beginning, so there is no question of such a deliberate return.

The talks in Doha are about implementing clauses from the memorandum of understanding, and they will be held with the Qatari delegation.


The "mediators" are the Qataris. There are no plans for any direct US / Iran negotiations. Both statements agree on that.

quote:

The $6 billion in frozen Iranian funds has not yet been transferred to Tehran.

The transfer of the frozen Iranian funds will be carried out by agreement between the two sides.


quote:

The implementation of the clause dealing with the release of Iranian assets is in progress, and we hope that the process will end with the desired result.


Again, no contradiction.

quote:

We appreciate France's participation in clearing the mines from the Strait of Hormuz.


quote:

The removal of mines from the Strait of Hormuz is the sole responsibility of Iran


Iran says it is their responsibility. That doesn't mean that France didn't help. Again, no contradiction.
Posted by wfallstiger
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jun 2006
16176 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:22 am to
Is Pakistan sitting this one out or have they been shelved in favor of more traditional ME States in the middle of this mess?
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11990 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 10:50 am to
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Is Pakistan sitting this one out or have they been shelved in favor of more traditional ME States in the middle of this mess?


I think they are still involved on the back end somewhere, but they are currently in their own mess with Afghanistan, so they may be out of the picture for a bit.
Posted by Stinger_1066
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Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 6/30/26 at 11:02 am to
quote:


Is Pakistan sitting this one out or have they been shelved in favor of more traditional ME States in the middle of this mess?


They have an escalation of their own they are dealing with along their border with Afghanistan.

There were some significant exchanges of fire over the weekend.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11990 posts
Posted on 6/30/26 at 12:47 pm to
Posted by TheBoo
South to Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:46 am to
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This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 1:51 am
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 6:44 am to
UAE building another pipeline is very significant and latest reports says it is 50% complete. Any decrease in the percentage of oil coming out of the SOH decreases the significance of the SOH, decreasing Iran's power.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:04 am to
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HUNTING SEASON ON THE IRGC?

A police officer was shot dead today in Iran's southeastern Sistan-Baluchestan province after armed assailants opened fire on his way to work.

Iran identified the victim as Mohammad Palangi, a Sunni Baluch police officer, and says a manhunt is underway.

The attack comes as unrest and armed resistance continue to simmer in one of Iran's most volatile regions, placing additional pressure on the regime's security apparatus.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:10 am to
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The U.S. House rejected a Democratic war powers resolution that would have required Trump to remove American troops from hostilities in Lebanon.

The measure, introduced by Rep. Rashida Tlaib, failed. 22 Democrats opposed it and 2 Republicans supported it.

House Democratic leaders argued the resolution was unnecessary, saying no U.S. troops are currently engaged in combat in Lebanon.

- The Hill
Posted by chalupa
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:56 am to
Feels like the slowest 48 hours of news since the conflict started.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 11:30 am to
It seems that the war ended with yesterday’s SCOTUS decision.

News seems to have vanished.
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