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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:23 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:23 pm to BayouBengal51
Awww, someone was not wearing their seat-belt apparently:
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Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:44 pm to friendlyobservation
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Logistically, it's much too large compared to somewhere like Iraq and they'd need to foot more soldiers than Iraq ever did. So, they'd probably have to hit key points and occupy certain areas to secure the Strait. No politician wants this.
If you have extremists who want blood and war because they're already barbarians how are you going to stop them from sowing economic chaos worldwide? You can blockade them off all you want with Navy that's not going to stop their objective which is to continue to make you suffer and the Strait is too small to properly secure it without occupying parts of Iran. They're not using battleships there because it makes them vulnerable to attacks and when you're rowing speed boats across the straight it doesn't make sense for the US to fire 50 million $ missiles to sink a speed boat. Which goes back to the point they're trying to make us expend resources on purpose because it costs millions to fire each time.
So do tell us how the US is going to stop these extremist factions within Iran right now who are already ignoring ceasefire agreements because you created a massive power vacuum in this country. They grossly miscalculated the potential loss here. Once midterms are over they're going to mass bomb them again.
How are you going to get around this? Create a new passage way through Oman/UAE/Qatar? The straight is too small for this to be realistic. Reroute oil elsewhere? How are you going to do that? You don't see the predicament this causes?
Zero chance there is a ground invasion by the USA.
We don't need to invade to win.
They have two options. Comply or they will be kept in their country. Cut off from the outside world. Prevented from making more missiles. Prevented from making a Nuke.
We don't need to invade. Currently the objectives of this administration are met. Not my objectives. Maybe not yours. Mine include regime change. Trump doesn't want to pay the price for IMMEDIATE regime change.
That price is more missiles firing from Iran. More ordinance from us being fired. Israel stretch thinner.
The negative is ongoing military presence. We have the ability to do this forever.
Obviously nobody wants this to be the state of affairs 50 years from now. duh. And surely it will not be.
People here complain about not trusting Iran. I sure as hell do not trust them. What Trump is trusting is that if we have full access we can know if they violate the agreements that have yet to be signed and will I don't believe will be signed anytime soon.
I think what will happen is we keep sanctions on. They don't surrender and at some point maybe in 4 months, maybe in 2 years the regime falls and we get everything we want.
A coup or a civil war is the end result that realistically is going to happen. It doesn't have to happen but for that to be the case IRGC would basically have to stop doing everything that makes them the IRGC. Yeah, I will believe that when I see it for a decade.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:44 pm to friendlyobservation
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Your previous leaders were not dumb enough to drop bombs on a regime like this because it creates more problems than it fixes as you're seeing now.
Who are you with?
Posted on 6/29/26 at 2:45 pm to Auburn1968
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How long before pipelines are built to negate the Strait's bottleneck?
UAE is already working on that. They said they have plan in place that will make them completely independent from the SOH for having to move oil.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 3:02 pm to BayouBengal51
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:37 pm to BayouBengal51
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UAE is already working on that. They said they have plan in place that will make them completely independent from the SOH for having to move oil.
That’s cool and all, but you can still hit pipelines just like a ship. Easier too since it doesn’t move and is hundreds of miles long. It doesn’t really pull the teeth of Iran.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 4:53 pm to UptownJoeBrown
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That’s cool and all, but you can still hit pipelines just like a ship.
Crude pipelines require above ground pumping (booster) stations. Many only 30-50 miles apart, depending on the thickness of the crude. They can easily disrupt the flow of a crude pipeline. It just won’t be in international waters, it would be on someone’s soil.
Posted on 6/29/26 at 5:57 pm to Tigerfan1274
Well if I only had to protect a single pipline, not a country or a city.......wouldnt that be a wee bit easier?
You guys kill me, a bunch of fcking losers.
Lets just go home and let them nuke us in a few years, there is nothing we can do.
Perhaps you should go back to the PNW and dance naked with little children, you might be more safe.
You guys kill me, a bunch of fcking losers.
Lets just go home and let them nuke us in a few years, there is nothing we can do.
Perhaps you should go back to the PNW and dance naked with little children, you might be more safe.
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