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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:42 am to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:42 am to
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FOX & FRIENDS: The Journal is reporting that the remnants of the Iranian navy are turning ships back in the Strait of Hormuz. Is that a violation of the MOU?

JD VANCE: I'm skeptical of that reporting, or at least of some of the conclusions that could drawn from it. We're not seeing any evidence that the Iranians are still closing down the Strait of Hormuz
Posted by ninthward
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 10:58 am to
What a shame. I pray I’m wrong and this deal is not the true mou and more so propaganda from Iran. I pray that Israel is able to end the Islamic regime regardless of the US. I’m ashamed we gave credence to the irgc as an equal negotiator to the US. We failed in taking out all of the irgc leadership.
Posted by TakingStock
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:20 am to
Bill Ackman is asking the right questions and we should all absolutely be skeptical.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:36 am to
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 11:38 am to
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This started yesterday -- four Israeli soldiers were killed when an anti-tank rocket struck their tank.
The entire crew was killed.

Hours later 5 more IDF soldiers were wounded in another attack.

This was always going to be the result. Israel has the right to strike back under international law and no MOU that is not signed by Israel changes that.

The MOU is -- and always has been -- meaningless.

Meaningless except to buy time
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:02 pm to
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Iranian media outlets have been instructed to avoid portraying the renewed closure of the Strait of Hormuz and #Iran ’s simultaneous participation in Switzerland talks as a divide between the country's armed forces and negotiators, according to a SNSC directive seen by Iran International.

"The directive urged media outlets to frame military actions not as a replacement for diplomacy but as its support, and to avoid presenting negotiations as a sign of retreat."
Posted by Rainier Fog
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:15 pm to
Sounds like a bunch of posters from this thread wrote it, then claimed it as fact
Posted by Rainier Fog
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:18 pm to
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What am I missing?


What are you missing Bill? The same thing everyone else is missing, including the people that endlessly claim the U.S. is handing out $300 billion. There is no reconstruction fund, nowhere has the President or Vice President said that. Only in Dim world has that been said.
Posted by Rainier Fog
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:25 pm to
But the Panicans were just panicking about this as if there is a simple door Iran can just open and close on the strait and no one else has a key

I encourage all the Dims out there to continue to listen to propaganda and make yourselves look stupid
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:36 pm to
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CENTCOM: The U.S. military says it remains “present and vigilant” in the Strait of Hormuz after Iran announced the closure of the strategic waterway.

U.S. Central Command stated that American forces are working to ensure “all aspects of the agreement with Iran are adhered to, obeyed, and in full force and effect.”

The Strait of Hormuz remains one of the world’s most critical energy shipping routes.
Posted by wdhalgren
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 12:51 pm to
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Sounds like a bunch of posters from this thread wrote it, then claimed it as fact


You say that as sort of a joke, but it's amazing how quickly "journalism" has devolved into social media smack talk. There was never much integrity, but there was a time when the bias was more subtle, the lies a bit harder to detect. These days I'm impressed if they can negotiate subect-verb agreement. The pretense of objectivity is a lost art.
This post was edited on 6/20/26 at 12:55 pm
Posted by Auburn1968
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 1:29 pm to
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What a shame.


So much waffling. What are the sources of this painful waffling?
This post was edited on 6/20/26 at 1:45 pm
Posted by QboveTopSecret
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 2:45 pm to



There is nothing bigger than AI right now. OpenAI, challenging the MIC was a thunderbolt. Myself included thinks souring the gulf states region is not a bad idea. Check out the data centers built or being planned there.
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 3:44 pm to
Posted by hawgfaninc
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 3:47 pm to
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JD Vance responded to lifting oil sanctions on Iran:

“By lifting the sanctions, we’re actually going to be able to see a little bit where their financial system actually sends money and receives money. That’s a real benefit to the American people. And that’s really the only thing that has changed by the change in sanctions.”

(Vance Initially promised that the deal would be on a ‘performance’ basis, we all knew that clause 10 says that Iran would get sanctions relief right away)
Posted by Tigerfan1274
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 4:56 pm to
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That’s a real benefit to Hezbollah and Hamas


Fixed it for JD.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 5:34 pm to
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Israeli forces have seized Hezbollah's underground Southern Front headquarters in southern Lebanon, a fortified complex that served as the organization's primary command-and-control center for operations against northern Israel.

The IDF holds the Ali al-Taher Ridge, Tebnine, and the Nabatieh Heights. Dozens of militants are reported still inside. Iran is working to halt the advance.
Posted by BayouBengal51
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 5:55 pm to
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Ali al-Tahar Ridge, southern Lebanon

At least 30 Hezbollah terrorist holed up there. Completely surrounded by the IDF, if Israel accomplishes the destruction of this command center it would be a serious loss to Hezbollah.

IRGC will do anything to stop this.

Very important to keep an eye out on this.
Posted by wfallstiger
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 5:58 pm to
Finish it -- there is no viable off ramp given four/five plus decades of track record.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 6/20/26 at 6:07 pm to
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Rubio has taken over negotiations from Vance. This takes place as Israel has just secured Hezbollah’s Northern Headquarters in Lebanon.
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