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re: Official US/Israel vs Iran war thread

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Posted by Stidham8
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:15 am to
We’ll never truly know what the strategy was until the books are written.
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:25 am to
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Their only compass is TDS. It guides them to whatever information will reinforce orange man bad.
where did all these fools come from? It's wild how many infected people are in this thread.
Posted by BearCrocs
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:44 am to
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President Trump is showing tremendous strength in allowing Iranian leaders ample time to make a wise decision.


You know Iran hates the west and wants to murder you and your family right?

Trump only has so many (limited) options before congress must approve.

It’s okay to support trump as president and say he needs to get this shite over with.
Posted by TBoy
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:49 am to
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Trump only has so many (limited) options before congress must approve.

Lay out a plan to the congressional leaders and go get a vote. There are enough democrats who can be pushed to vote for an actual plan.
Posted by Demonbengal
Ruston
Member since May 2015
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 11:52 am to
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It’s okay to support trump as president and say he needs to get this shite over with.


That’s basically where I’m at. We are clearly not willing to totally annihilate Iran leaving their civilians in utter ruin as well as the government. Sadly that’s what it would likely take to get a regime change. We have set their nuclear ambitions back decades. That may be the best we can hope for.
Posted by BabysArmHoldingApple
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:03 pm to
It is comical how people on here offer definitive strategy assessments with about 0.1% of the information. Trump and his advisors are smart people. They have way more information than is being made public, and they are no doubt using AI and war game tools that are beyond our imagination.

This does not mean that they are always right or that things will end well. But it does mean that definitive statements about strategy or outcome on this message board (overly positive or overly negative) are a big waste of time. You could change one little key fact that none of us know and the whole picture could be completely different.
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:10 pm to
Don’t bring some rational shite up in here, sir.
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:10 pm to
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That’s basically where I’m at. We are clearly not willing to totally annihilate Iran leaving their civilians in utter ruin as well as the government. Sadly that’s what it would likely take to get a regime change. We have set their nuclear ambitions back decades. That may be the best we can hope for.


Then you are comfortable with Iran’s terror proxies terrorizing the Middle East for another 15-20 years and letting radical Islam retain a strong foothold.

Now they have the ultimate leverage card in closing the straight of Hormuz whenever they please to fulfill a demand.

Last but not least, they will be only emboldened to go after nuclear weapons once they are rebuilt and their economy recovers.
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 12:11 pm
Posted by FnTigers
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:12 pm to
Well said. TDS is a helluva disease and it's running wild here in this thread.
This post was edited on 5/31/26 at 12:26 pm
Posted by RockyMtnTigerWDE
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:45 pm to
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It is comical how people on here offer definitive strategy assessments with about 0.1% of the information. Trump and his advisors are smart people. They have way more information than is being made public, and they are no doubt using AI and war game tools that are beyond our imagination. This does not mean that they are always right or that things will end well. But it does mean that definitive statements about strategy or outcome on this message board (overly positive or overly negative) are a big waste of time. You could change one little key fact that none of us know and the whole picture could be completely different.


What, you mean all these military advisors, strategists, and experts here aren’t all knowing?

This is disconcerting.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:48 pm to
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 12:50 pm to
Pezeshkian has allegedly tried to resign again, but the IRGC run Tasmin news agency says the report below is not true.

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Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:21 pm to
Hmmmm... interesting news!

So what has happened to cause the IRGC to attack the Kurds in the North of Iran?

Was this a preemptive strike?
Is there military activity against the IRGC that we haven't heard yet?
Does the IRGC feel invincible now that the USA hasn't shown the willingness to strike Iran save a tit for tat thing here and there?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:36 pm to
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Don’t bring some rational shite up in here, sir.


That may be a bannable offense.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
3947 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:40 pm to
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Trump and his advisors are smart people.


So smart that they believed this conflict would be over in a couple of weeks when everyone else in the world knew better. So smart they didn't have a plan for when Iran inevitably shut down the Strait of Hormuz. So smart that they literally have no idea what to do next. So very smart. The smartest.
Posted by Goforit
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:47 pm to
You don't know jack about jack.
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11981 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:56 pm to
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So what has happened to cause the IRGC to attack the Kurds in the North of Iran?

Was this a preemptive strike?


They have been targeting the Iraqi Kurd groups who are anti PMU and anti IRGC at random times during the cease fire. They attacked the main headquarters/base of the Iraqi Kurds a couple of weeks ago, not long after Esmail Ghaani met with pro Iran forces and and then left.
Posted by AUveritas
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 1:58 pm to
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You don't know jack about jack


That means I'm qualified to be a Trump staffer
Posted by BayouBengal51
Forest Hill, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2006
11981 posts
Posted on 5/31/26 at 2:00 pm to
More about the Iranian presidents second resignation attempt. He tried to resign earlier in the conflict but was denied. I see this as Pezeshkian trying to find an out for when the regime falls. I think this is his move at trying to project himself as a moderate/reformist but in reality he is not. He is just trying put himself in a better position with the West IMO.

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If this is true, this is a significant development. Not because Pezeshkian means anything or has any power, because he doesn't. But because this is further evidence of deepening cracks within the Islamic Regime apparatus occupying Iran itself.

After all, if the Islamic Regime is "so strong" as some in the west claim, why would the President suddenly want to resign?

"An informed source told Iran International that Masoud Pezeshkian, President of Iran, has requested to step down from his position by sending an official letter to the office of Mojtaba Khamenei, leader of the Islamic Republic.

According to information received by Iran International, in this letter, sent in the past few hours, Pezeshkian has issued a warning in an unprecedented and critical tone that the country's administrative structure has effectively veered off from official channels, and the main pillars of governance have fallen under the complete control of a specific faction of IRGC commanders.

It remains unclear whether Mojtaba Khamenei will agree to the president's resignation, but the content of the letter points to a deep and unprecedented rift at the highest levels of power in the Islamic Republic.

In the letter, Pezeshkian emphasized that the president and government have effectively been sidelined from major and vital decision-making processes in the country, and the resulting vacuum has paved the way for extremist factions within the IRGC to seize control of affairs. He also stated that under such conditions, he is unable to manage the government or fulfill his legal responsibilities, and for this reason, he has requested immediate resignation.

This development comes amid ongoing tensions in recent months between the government and the Islamic Republic's military-security institutions. Iran International had previously reported that the IRGC has gradually curtailed many of the presidency's authorities and, in practice, taken control of key sectors of the government.

According to informed sources, this situation has trapped Pezeshkian's government in a political and executive deadlock—one that neither allows for advancing diplomatic negotiations nor permits the completion and implementation of desired changes in the cabinet structure."
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/31/26 at 2:12 pm to
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You don't know jack about jack

That means I'm qualified to be a Trump staffer


Or a Democrat Presidential Candidate
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