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re: Official RT Indictment Thread -- Youtubers Lauren Chen, Dave Rubin, Tim Pool Linked

Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by wutangfinancial
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:11 pm to
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You list the CIA here for what reason?


Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because 8 freaking years ago they were sending assets to honey trap Trump campaign operatives to tie them to the Russians
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:11 pm to
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When the MSM is held accountable for it's lies and bias get back to me.
Government agencies have used and colluded with the MSM to push their agenda to influence elections.
Shouldn't they be held accountable?

This would be applicable if Tim Pool, et al, were charged. Until they are, it's not really applicable other than some attempt at whataboutism to steer discussion away from the story in OP.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:12 pm to
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Maybe because 8 freaking years ago they were sending assets to honey trap Trump campaign operatives to tie them to the Russians

Who?

Russia sent operatives. We know that. Trump and his team (unlike Tim Pool) were smart enough not to bite.

You implicating Carter Page or something? Ole George Pap?

Or are you talking about non-CIA Western Intel agencies?
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:14 pm to
A good way to sow division would be to get people like the op to believe everyone he disagrees with is a Russian agent.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:15 pm to
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A good way to sow division would be to get people like the op to believe everyone he disagrees with is a Russian agent.

Or that Muslim terror attacks are Ukrainian terror attacks
Posted by Bunk Moreland
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:19 pm to
Agreed. Dan in particular built some trust with me, though, during Russiagate. I was in a fog that Trump may have been a Russian asset because of the MSM onslaught. I had no idea who Bongino was, but I stumbled on him and this seemingly honest dude was unpacking the entire thing and explaining why it was a scam. And he was right. That counts for something.

Speaking of which, I know Martyr Made is getting a lot of run on here lately. This was what put him on the map and explains why a lot of us despise the media and fed bureaucracy.
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Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:21 pm to
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To your other post, Barnes is the only alt-right guy would say I follow. Maybe Bongino once in a while if he fits that category. I tend to trust what I consider the alt-leftists (Greenwald, Taibbi, Aaron Mate, Michael Tracey) as most intellectually consistent. How do you form your opinions? By not reading anything?


I’m not hating on you btw, just putting my own useless thoughts out there. To answer your question, I don’t know. I don’t inherently think my thoughts or beliefs are more correct than anothers, I just share them and if someone disagrees that is fine. I do my best to just find the source material with as little outside manipulation as possible. I understand everything has a bias though, even the source.

We have two giant masses, one being a left group think and the other a right group think. I can immediately write off both sides as probably being too indoctrinated so I avoid their opinions which takes up pretty much all online political discourse. Sometimes an event lines up and they were right, so we hear “I told you so” — then back to the programming. I’m starting to think being ignorant of this all as a whole is probably the best idea.

A thought I’ve had for a while is, if I took away my upbringing/education/influences on my life what would I believe. If I were born in lets say Uganda as some impoverished schmuck, would I really give a frick about a border? Some arbitrary man made concept that is stopping me from improving my own life outcomes? Would I care about most of the topics I thought were important for a very long time?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:23 pm to

like I said.

Zero trust environment.
Posted by Old Money
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:24 pm to
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Old Money says don't trust him, form your own conclusions!


Yes
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:25 pm to
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like I said.

Zero trust environment.

So now Tim Pool is an asset?

When proven wrong, just add another layer to the conspiracy
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:30 pm to
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So now Tim Pool is an asset?


I'm not saying that he is. Not saying that he isn't.

We don't know.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
33412 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:36 pm to
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These people took money from a Russian source to promote a narrative driven by the source. The CIA was not involved in that chain.

The timing of this indictment is kinda suspicious, no?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89763 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:51 pm to
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Or that Muslim terror attacks are Ukrainian terror attacks


What?



Coming soon, sfp is a cyber terrorist for disagreeing with the government.


Dont come crying to me when people get arrested for saying they can't afford a house under the Harris administration.
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 12:53 pm
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:58 pm to
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The non-indicted principals involved don't seem to be disputing the facts.

Tim Pool just said he was a patsy.


Get out of here with facts, SFP!!

This was obviously a deep state psychop to take down the real Patriots!

Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Russia was busted peddling Leftism in 2016. They just want to sew the seeds of discord among American society.

Russia is the source and cause of many layers of problems in America today.

For example, Russia is working closely with its proxy in Central America, Nicaragua, to make the US border situation worse. This Story lays out the human trafficking racket that Nicaragua and Russia have set up.
Posted by jclem11
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:00 pm to
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A good way to sow division would be to get people like the op to believe everyone he disagrees with is a Russian agent.


Wut?

This is a funny story about YouTubers getting duped by a gay op from Russian operatives. It is pretty funny story.

I am here to see what happens.

Where did you get this " everyone I disagree with is a Russian agent" schizo post from?
This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:02 pm to
Posted by MilwaukeeKosherDills
Member since Aug 2021
493 posts
Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:10 pm to
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Is the content of any of these videos false?

Are they based on made up stats, reports, etc?


Unless one watches their videos how in the world would anyone know?

I'd like to see some clips to get some sort of informed opinion.

How can anyone say they were or were not lying or misleading unless they've checked.

These folks were off my radar. 16 million Youtube views sounds like a lot, but that was spread across some 2,000 videos. And then if you filter out the non-political videos, it seems to me that Russia wasn't getting their $10 million worth.
Posted by jclem11
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:12 pm to
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Benny and the Assets


This post was edited on 9/6/24 at 1:13 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 9/6/24 at 1:22 pm to
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Unless one watches their videos how in the world would anyone know?


The truth/falsity of the information in the videos is obviously important, but most of the time you either can't verify it or it would take effort and action steps to do so and you only tend to do so on information that's dubious.

A lot of what's problematic, though, isn't strictly true false information, but opinions and attitudes. When Tim Pool says "Ukraine should be our enemy", where could I even fact-check that?

The biggest problem with these videos is that Russian opinions/attitudes are being laundered through American figures that patriots trust.

A filing today claims that the Russians have a list of 2800 influencers they've got for this election and I'm pretty sure they coincide with a lot of patriots social media feeds.

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