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re: Obama breaks law by not notifying congress before taliban swap
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:24 pm to SG_Geaux
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:24 pm to SG_Geaux
This is yet another one of those "is Obama more dishonest or inept?" issues.
And the media HAS to be complicit in some way because if the true story breaks, the one where Bowe is a deserter and even Taliban sympathizer, the Obama Administration would likely take a huge hit; but if it does not break, the millions of mindless masses will think this was a good thing by Obama, "bringing our boy back home!"
And the media HAS to be complicit in some way because if the true story breaks, the one where Bowe is a deserter and even Taliban sympathizer, the Obama Administration would likely take a huge hit; but if it does not break, the millions of mindless masses will think this was a good thing by Obama, "bringing our boy back home!"
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Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:28 pm to USMCTiger03
Heard what the first words his father said were at the White House presser?
LINK
LINK
quote:
“What none of these media is reporting is that the father’s (SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father Bob) first words at the WH were in Arabic – those words were “bism allah alrahman alraheem” – which means “in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful” – these are the opening words of every chapter of the Qur’an except one (the chapter of the sword – the 9th) – by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam. There is no question but POTUS knows this.”
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:47 pm to monsterballads
I wonder how much intel he shared with ol' Taliban. We viewed it as a kidnapping, he viewed it as a perfectly executed plan.
Hopefully his platoon that has been speaking out about this recently will have something concrete on this deserter.
Hopefully his platoon that has been speaking out about this recently will have something concrete on this deserter.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:51 pm to monsterballads
So we traded 5 high ranking Taliban officials for some frick who up and walked off base, forsaking his duty.
Meanwhile:
A decorated vet sits in a Mexican jail for a wrong turn.
4 Americans waited for assistance for 9 hours under attack and died waiting.
Fabulous.
Meanwhile:
A decorated vet sits in a Mexican jail for a wrong turn.
4 Americans waited for assistance for 9 hours under attack and died waiting.
Fabulous.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 1:56 pm to Breadstick Gun
quote:I am not convinced that these 5 prisoners did either. They were Taliban military men and one political appointee, Secretary of the Interior for a province I believe.
a pack of chewing gum never conspired to kill anyone.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:24 pm to SoulGlo
quote:
4 Americans waited for assistance for 9 hours under attack and died waiting.
You mean two (the time element notwithstanding.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:26 pm to SoulGlo
quote:
So we traded 5 high ranking Taliban officials for some frick who up and walked off base, forsaking his duty.
Meanwhile:
A decorated vet sits in a Mexican jail for a wrong turn.
4 Americans waited for assistance for 9 hours under attack and died waiting.
Fabulous.
You really have to wonder who Obama really has decided to side with....
"if the political winds blow in an unfavorable direction, I will side with the muslims" - BHO
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:29 pm to monsterballads
quote:
by uttering these words on the grounds of the WH, Bergdahl (the father) sanctified the WH and claimed it for Islam.
shite like this is why Allen West will remain on the fringes.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:33 pm to NHTIGER
This appears to be either complete ineptitude on the part of the Obama Administration or outright defiance and recklessness.
There are so many question but here are a few...
This guy has been held for 5 years by the Taliban and apparently sought them out...yet somehow, according to the WH Press Secretary, we knew that he was 30 days away from dying due to health reasons if we did not act immediately. How did they know his exact health...yet why are they still allegedly analyzing his health in Germany at the moment?
How many of you knew about this guy before the weekend - I didn't?
Why trade five high value targets and not one or thirty...how was this negotiated?
From NC_Tigah...how can the WH tout this guy as a hero (already) and say Snowden is a villain? A traitor is a traitor...right?
There are so many question but here are a few...
This guy has been held for 5 years by the Taliban and apparently sought them out...yet somehow, according to the WH Press Secretary, we knew that he was 30 days away from dying due to health reasons if we did not act immediately. How did they know his exact health...yet why are they still allegedly analyzing his health in Germany at the moment?
How many of you knew about this guy before the weekend - I didn't?
Why trade five high value targets and not one or thirty...how was this negotiated?
From NC_Tigah...how can the WH tout this guy as a hero (already) and say Snowden is a villain? A traitor is a traitor...right?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:34 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
shite like this is why Allen West will remain on the fringes.
Yeah, I really liked the guy, but he's clearly losing it.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:40 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
This is yet another one of those "is Obama more dishonest or inept?"
The answer to that question is both.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:49 pm to DeltaDoc
quote:
How many of you knew about this guy before the weekend - I didn't?
Why trade five high value targets and not one or thirty...how was this negotiated?
This exact same trade has been reported on numerous times over the past 30 months, including by all of the major news outlets. Each time it "fell through" for one reason or another, usually citing Karzai's opposition or congressional objections as the two major obstacles. Karzai will be out of the picture in 12 days and the change in wording concerning release of prisoners, often cited on this board the past couple of days, combined with the VA scandal peaking last week, made it worth the risk for Obama (at least in his mind).
Posted on 6/2/14 at 2:53 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
shite like this is why Allen West will remain on the fringes.
Yeah, I'm not a fan, but what was said was said.
Did you ignore that?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:07 pm to monsterballads
quote:
in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful
And if he would have said "First of all, I'd just like to thank Jesus Christ for my son's safe return", would it be an issue?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:29 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
And if he would have said
he didn't
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:44 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:
in the name of Allah the most gracious and most merciful
And if he would have said "First of all, I'd just like to thank Jesus Christ for my son's safe return", would it be an issue?
Because it's the same, right?
Posted on 6/2/14 at 3:46 pm to USMCTiger03
Invoking your deity in gratitude because something good has heppened in your life.
It's fine by me, but I also know some people are going to take offense to it. I also know some opportunists are going to harp on it to score political points.
Such is the American way these days.
It's fine by me, but I also know some people are going to take offense to it. I also know some opportunists are going to harp on it to score political points.
Such is the American way these days.
This post was edited on 6/2/14 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:23 pm to monsterballads
quote:
what does the constitution say about having detainee's at gitmo?
Nothing specific to Gitmo. But you might want to check Article 1, Section 9 about Habeas Corpus.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:40 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
This is yet another one of those "is Obama more dishonest or inept?" issues. And the media HAS to be complicit in some way because if the true story breaks, the one where Bowe is a deserter and even Taliban sympathizer, the Obama Administration would likely take a huge hit; but if it does not break, the millions of mindless masses will think this was a good thing by Obama, "bringing our boy back home!"
Napolitano said the greater law broken was that Obama "aided and abetted a terrorist organization" by giving them assets. Who cares. Obama sucks big time. We'll pay.
Those low lifes will be back on the front page with blood and guts all over the place, and we'll see how Obama is celebrated then. Not that he can do any wrong in the minds of the bots.
Tigers getting whacked!
I'm done.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 8:49 pm to USMCTiger03
quote:
"is Obama more dishonest or inept?"
Yes
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