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NHTIGER
| Favorite team: | LSU  |
| Location: | Central New Hampshire |
| Biography: | LSU Alumnus - Vietnam Vet - MENSA member (23 yrs) |
| Interests: | Forest Service Volunteer (White Mountain National Forest) |
| Occupation: | Retired Bank Exec - Federal & Private Investigator |
| Number of Posts: | 16188 |
| Registered on: | 11/20/2003 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: Who do you want to draft JD5?
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/14/23 at 12:04 pm
"A sportswriter who covers the Patriots said he expects New England to pick Marvin Harrison first then Jaden Daniels. They have two first round picks."
The Patriots DO NOT have two first round picks in the 2024 NFL draft.
Most Boston area media, and many fans, are clamoring for Drake Maye as t...
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How the Heisman vote went by Voting Region
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 9:18 pm
First, the number of voters who left the top 3 finishers off their ballot completely:
JD 122
Penix 152
Nix 350
EDIT: The above numbers are based upon the expected 928 ballots, but because 37 ballots were either not submitted or were disqualified, the above numbers are s...
re: 10% of voters didn't have Jayden top 4
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 8:52 pm
Not choosing 1st, 2nd and 3rd place means the ballot is disqualified, per the Heisman page....
re: 10% of voters didn't have Jayden top 4
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 8:22 pm
Last season when Caleb Williams won by a larger margin than this, 152 voters left him off their ballot completely....
re: 10% of voters didn't have Jayden top 4
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 8:18 pm
"10% of voters didn't have Jayden top 4"
Voters only could choose 1st, 2nd and 3rd....
re: Nabers got robbed!
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 4:08 pm
"Can you find out who voted and for who?"
Here they are, all 650+, with their media affiliation:
https://biletnikoffaward.com/voters/
Also, -
"Secret and Secure Ballot and Voting Integrity:
The Foundation does not reveal the vote of any individual selection committee member; however, an...
re: Let's ride for Malik!!! Suspect #1
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/9/23 at 12:07 pm
Has The Advocate's Sheldon Mickles revealed his ballot yet?...
re: How Heisman voting works- just an FYI. Jayden is in good shape.
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/5/23 at 12:41 pm
"Has there ever been a Heisman winner that did not have the most 1st place votes ?"
They didn't start having points allocated for 1st, 2nd and 3rd place votes until 1995.
The answer is no - but in 2009, winner. Mark Ingram received only 5 more 1st place votes than runner-up Toby Gerhart, 227 ...
re: How Heisman voting works- just an FYI. Jayden is in good shape.
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/5/23 at 12:21 pm
"If Harrison is #4 than that means people voted before the Ohio St Michigan game"
That game was played on November 25th.
The Heisman ballots were not distributed until two days later, on November 27th.
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re: How Heisman voting works- just an FYI. Jayden is in good shape.
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/5/23 at 12:09 pm
"Burrow received 3 third-place votes and was left off of 42 ballots."
And Caleb Williams, despite an easy win last year, was left off 154 ballots.
Omissions could come into play in a very close final tally, which hopefully this one will not be....
re: Penix will finish second per Corso
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/2/23 at 3:32 pm
An FYI, Lee Corso is the 2023 Heisman Sectional Representative for the South Region. He is responsible for the appointment of the Heisman state representatives for AL, FL, GA, KY, LA, MS, and TN. Those state reps select the Heisman voters from within their respective states. ...
re: West coast heisman bias
Posted by NHTIGER on 12/1/23 at 12:35 pm
I'm guessing one-third or more of the 927 non-Nissan voters will omit Daniels or Nix as either their 1st or 2nd choice. Because it's all about total points and not 1st place votes, these 1 point and 0 point ballots for one or the other will prove to be the difference makers, for better or worse, in...
re: Jayden Daniels WINS Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award (Update with ceremony link 12/7)
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/30/23 at 7:30 pm
"So if he wins Best QB in the country, and the Heisman race is between 2 QB's, that should be a dead giveaway right?"
Problem is in 2022, Max Duggan won this award and QB Caleb Williams won the Heisman. In 2021, QB Kenny Pickett won this award and QB Bryce Young won the Heisman. In 2020, Mack Jon...
re: The Athletic had a straw poll for the Heisman and had Daniels slightly behind Nix.
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/28/23 at 12:39 pm
"Big Ten vote is going to decide who wins."
You can bet there will be votes for both Harrison, Jr. and McCarthy coming out of the Midwest group of voters. That's just the reality of it.
The group that has no dog in the hunt - the 145 voters from the Northeast (NY state and New England) - may ...
re: The Athletic had a straw poll for the Heisman and had Daniels slightly behind Nix.
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/28/23 at 12:30 pm
Caleb Williams had an easy win in last year's Heisman.
153 voters didn't even list him on their ballots.
Even when Joe B. had that crushing Heisman win in 2019, 41 voters left him off their ballots completely.
Neither race was affected by this, not even close.
However, in a neck-and-neck...
re: JD5 has logistical advantage for Heisman!
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/27/23 at 11:10 pm
"JD is the only viable candidate from the south. He’ll get the vast majority of media votes from the southeast. Nix and Penix will split the west coast votes."
That still leaves two-thirds of the total 870 media votes that are more difficult to predict.
The ideal ballot for us is 1.) JD - 2.)...
If Nix falters at all , the Heisman winner may not get the most 1st place votes
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/27/23 at 5:23 pm
Because the winner is determined by total points and not 1st place votes, a tight finish could easily come down to 3rd place votes and/or being left off some ballots.
Last year, despite a relatively easy win for Caleb Williams (544 1st place votes to Max Duggan's 188), there were 153 ballots that...
re: Sounds like Heather Dinich voting for Nix.
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/27/23 at 12:31 pm
The list is not only 10 years old, but the website that created the list closed down one year later - on December 8, 2014....
re: Looks like media and Vegas has already decided on Heisman.
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/27/23 at 10:31 am
"Many voters have decided to give their vote to either Bo Nix or Michael Penix. "
The ballots are being distributed today. The four finalists who will get the trip to NYC will be announced next Monday.
It's not simply a matter of who a voter gives his first place vote. Because it's a point...
re: 2nd and 3rd place votes as well as omissions, could decide Heisman
Posted by NHTIGER on 11/25/23 at 12:02 am
He won't get any 1st place votes, even from the 145 media voters in the Mid-Atlantic (ACC) region; but 3rd pace votes are oftentimes treated as "throwaway" symbolic votes in Heisman voting. Maye and Jordan Travis were the only two guys likely to get some 3rds from that region, but with Travis' injur...
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