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Nuanced take on Massie from KY-04 voter

Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:12 pm
Posted by burger bearcat
Member since Oct 2020
10502 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:12 pm
To start, I ended up voting for Massie yesterday. I had waffled back and forth, the decision could have been a lot easier if they picked someone that seemed a little less NeoConish than Gallrein, but I probably could have gone either way. I had family and friends that went separated ways as well.

I will say that Massie losing was clearly his own doing. No one worked harder to get him out of office than Thomas Massie. He simply stopped trying to do his job and represent his constituents and work within the framework of our political system to push his ideas and agendas forward. He chose to go on a self-destructive mission, that often times looked to be driven more by personal qualms than any sort of principles.

The optics just simply were not there for him. It appeared he was doing everything in his power to make Trump ineffective, which was not going to fly in a district that overwhelmingly voted for Trump to get his agenda pushed.

This goes back to the classic problem with libertarianism. It’s great at offering critiques of existing policies. But absolutely terrible at coming up with concrete action plans “that will actually work in reality” on how to get their agenda passed.

I argued with a friend last night about the situation. Said friend is totally ate up about the debt clock and how we have to roll it back, etc etc… which I don’t disagree with any of his wishes and goals. However I had to continue to remind him that it is not achievable with the level of immigration and makeup of our demographics and electorate. So until we go back to an electorate that resembles early America, we have to work within the confines of massive debt. There is no other option presently available.
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
1904 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:13 pm to
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I will say that Massie losing was clearly his own doing. No one worked harder to get him out of office than Thomas Massie. He simply stopped trying to do his job and represent his constituents and work within the framework of our political system to push his ideas and agendas forward. He chose to go on a self-destructive mission, that often times looked to be driven more by personal qualms than any sort of principles.


But you still voted for him
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157946 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:16 pm to
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ended up voting for Massie yesterday


Oh shite. You are the enemy now too.
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16912 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:19 pm to
Nah you got it all wrong.

The enormous orthodox Jewish population in his Kentucky district and their AIPAC money did Massie in.

They couldn’t stand true MAGA being in control anymore.
Posted by DeBoar
Cullman, AL
Member since Jan 2024
1904 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:19 pm to
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5132 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:20 pm to
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he was doing everything in his power to make Trump ineffective,


^------ One would think after how 2020 turned around to bite the Globalists in the arse, Massie would have been smarter than this.
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
93381 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:23 pm to
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I ended up voting for Massie yesterday.
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He simply stopped trying to do his job and represent his constituents and work within the framework of our political system to push his ideas and agendas forward. He chose to go on a self-destructive mission, that often times looked to be driven more by personal qualms than any sort of principles.


ok
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:24 pm to
I can respect your reasonded opinion here, even if I don’t agree with all of it. It’s not made up of the pre-fed hyperbolic, exaggerated talking points.

These two things….
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But absolutely terrible at coming up with concrete action plans “that will actually work in reality” on how to get their agenda passed.


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I don’t disagree with any of his wishes and goals. However I had to continue to remind him that it is not achievable with the level of immigration and makeup of our demographics and electorate
… are what say to me we are in a populist movement. Everybody wants “their” slice, rather than addressing the issue. Trump is right to want infinite debt and spending. It’s popular as hell. And you can win elections doing it. GOPE has been doing it for decades.

But the day of reckoning is coming. There’s a reason younger voters went hard Massie. They are completely screwed by the status quo. Many voted for Trump to shake up the status quo. Unfortunately they are just gettting another serving. As a parent… i fell bad.
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:25 pm to
No he isn't
Posted by BCreed1
Alabama
Member since Jan 2024
6994 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:27 pm to
I find nothing wrong with this post. This is what a voter should always do. Break it down to pros and cons to see which is the best.
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
26339 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:30 pm to
If Massie had gone on a Media tour with Republicans pushing for fiscal responsibility, he’d be worth reelection.

He chose to partner with Democrats and the MSM instead. Massie became an obstructionist of Trumps agenda.
Posted by SoFlaGuy
Fort Lauderdale
Member since Apr 2020
3218 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:30 pm to
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Oh shite. You are the enemy now too.


Oh no! An enemy of an anonymous message board where no one has the balls to run for office themselves! People take this place too seriously.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3657 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:31 pm to
Trump requested billions and billions of cuts just for starters and they were all denied. He can’t control congress.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139019 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:36 pm to
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I ended up voting for Massie yesterday ... the decision could have been a lot easier if they picked someone that seemed a little less NeoConish than Gallrein ... I probably could have gone either way
I can see all of that.

I don't see "neoconish" as being quite as dangerous in the House as it is in the Senate, but I can understand it tilting the vote.
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This goes back to the classic problem with libertarianism. It’s great at offering critiques of existing policies. But absolutely terrible at coming up with concrete action plans “that will actually work in reality”
IMO, it is a problem with the people presenting it, not the premise.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:37 pm to
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rump requested billions and billions of cuts just for starters


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they were all denied.
Surely now with Massie gone we'll see massive budget cuts.

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He can’t control congress.
Trump has had the leadership he's wanted in the house going back to Kevin McCarthy.
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32183 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:41 pm to
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roadGator
used to be a dem, switched over and gets frustrated, so now you are a bomb thrower

Seems like you like a good pissing match/fight…

maybe calm down a little
Posted by dcbl
Good guys wear white hats.
Member since Sep 2013
32183 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:43 pm to
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where no one has the balls to run for office themselves
Xan would like a word
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
77717 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:44 pm to
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we have to work within the confines of massive debt. There is no other option presently available.

Do we?
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Trump will eventually make the legal case that the national debt was created THROUGH FRAUD — and fraud vitiates everything.

Combined with Amendment 14 Section 4, the debt will shrink to nearly nothing.

Trump then pays it off, brings us fully into the new system, and the central bank loses all leverage over the American people permanently.
This post was edited on 5/20/26 at 1:45 pm
Posted by Deuces
The bottom
Member since Nov 2011
16912 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:45 pm to
Stop blaming others.

Massie has nobody to blame except himself.

He chose to get in a personal squabble with Trump and his vendetta against him clouded his judgement, turning his voters off.

His opponents received 85% of the new votes.

That’s abysmal for an incumbent.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
477219 posts
Posted on 5/20/26 at 1:45 pm to
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Trump will eventually make the legal case that the national debt was created THROUGH FRAUD — and fraud vitiates everything.

Combined with Amendment 14 Section 4, the debt will shrink to nearly nothing.

Trump then pays it off, brings us fully into the new system, and the central bank loses all leverage over the American people permanently.


You post some historically dumb shite, but this may be your masterpiece
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