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re: Newly mRNA boosted adults aged 40-74 are now TWICE as likely to be hospitalized for Covid
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:09 am to WaWaWeeWa
Posted on 9/9/22 at 7:09 am to WaWaWeeWa
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And is the data “hospitalization for any reason”? Because those with high risk issues are being admitted all the time for other things. How much of this data is asymptomatic COVID cases?
“Hospitalization for any reason” is what people have been screaming about for over 2 years now! If you got to count a cancer patient *with* Covid as a Covid hospitalization in 2020, don’t go changing that now.
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Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:06 am to WaWaWeeWa
Is asymptomatic Covid really a thing or is it a bad test?? We should not be testing people without symptoms.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 8:29 am to KLSU
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I mean you are either in 3 groups and nobody is changing.
1. Get every booster just in case
2. Got original vaccine but when they started pushing boosters was like nope and stopped.
3. Pureblood. Waited to see the outcome of mass vaccinating millions, with an unproven vaccine, before getting any doses. Now will not get any no matter the data.
God bless group 3, we Purebloods.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:07 am to GumboPot
Boosters are becoming like communism arguments. Communism failed in that country because they did not do real communism.
Those previous boosters did not work, but this booster, this booster is the real deal.
Those previous boosters did not work, but this booster, this booster is the real deal.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:20 am to GumboPot
Didn't see it addressed in the thread, and don't have time right now to read the links. But, did they give any data about the totals? It looks really odd that the differences for the 75+ are so drastic to show that boosters 3+months are worse for the elderly than having a more recent one. Yet, when you look at the totals anyone with a booster at least 3+ months has much lower rate than those with one under 3 months.
And to further complicate the matter, the rate for 3 - 6 months Under 40 is 9.6, 40-74 years is 22.5, 75+ is 236.7, but the total is 19.1 (lower than everyone 40+). Unless the sample size is so heavily weighted for under 40, how is the total lower for than the 40-74 & 75+ groups?
And to further complicate the matter, the rate for 3 - 6 months Under 40 is 9.6, 40-74 years is 22.5, 75+ is 236.7, but the total is 19.1 (lower than everyone 40+). Unless the sample size is so heavily weighted for under 40, how is the total lower for than the 40-74 & 75+ groups?
Posted on 9/9/22 at 9:25 am to BigJim
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But at this point, you are going to believe whatever you believe regardless of data.
This.
It’s religion for the extremes of both sides, whether you’re on your 9th booster or still taking Ivermectin everyday as you stock your doomsday bunker.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:27 am to tiger91
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Is asymptomatic Covid really a thing or is it a bad test?? We should not be testing people without symptoms.
I still test hourly, just to make sure nothing made it past my four masks, face shield, hand sanitizer, and monthly boosters. I’ve only had a mild case of myocarditis, 7 blood clots, and occasional anal itch and leakage. No COVID, so I know it’s working. It’s science.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:33 am to STEVED00
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At this point, almost EVERYONE has had some variation of Covid-19. The real question is what is the extent of natural immunity. We also know that Omicron variant and above even though highly contagious is essentially a nothing burger to everyone even the elderly. What is the need to continue getting boosters that won’t stop infection for a virus that people aren’t being hospitalized any way??
They are embarrassed to admit they were duped and scared that their government tried to mandate a shot that was detrimental to their health.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:33 am to BigJim
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Only those with risk factors could get it. So this is probably driven by the fact the more recent boosters were given to those more likely to be hospitalized, than the vaccine caused hospitalization.
But at this point, you are going to believe whatever you believe regardless of data.
This is very likely true
I completely get the narrative that the vaccine and boosters are ineffective and can cause some problems, but I don't think "you're twice as likely to be hospitalized from COVID if you get the booster!" is an argument that means very much. Your explanation seems sensible and doesn't really do anything to boost the prevailing narrative about the need for boosters.
Of course, you'll be ridiculed for saying this, even though it doesn't necessarily mean you're an advocate for boosters.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:34 am to GumboPot
Just follow the science folks.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:42 am to Penrod
What I really love is how they didn't have time for recent boosters and they just gave 8 mice the shot and then gave it to people. Literally.
Fk it, right? What's the worst that can happen?
And they're SAYING that shite aloud btw.
Fk it, right? What's the worst that can happen?
And they're SAYING that shite aloud btw.
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:45 am to GumboPot
It’s a weird study.
Because it is still lower than people who haven’t been boosted but they separate that number into 2 groups
Makes Me think boosting is a good idea for the very old
Because it is still lower than people who haven’t been boosted but they separate that number into 2 groups
Makes Me think boosting is a good idea for the very old
Posted on 9/9/22 at 10:54 am to STEVED00
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The real question is what is the extent of natural immunity.
If that is still a question despite the amount of time and despite people being absolutely positively sure about the effectiveness of the vaccine, then I have to believe they either aren't interested in the effectiveness of natural immunity, or the answer is known and just isn't being reported as frequently for reasons.
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