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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:43 pm to RebelExpress38
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:43 pm to RebelExpress38
A mother should be able to put down her child up until the age of 16 with no legal ramifications.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:45 pm to SSpaniel
As a MD who has seen full term stillborns, the idea of human beings celebrating the passage of a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants is mind boggling. These posters who are so pro abortion..to this point..are either in the abortion industry, completely clueless, or have some pathology from their pasts that feed this rationale. And no, to the poster that suggests 50 percent of these full term abortions would become conservative voters..these are the absolute most vulnerable among us and they overwhelmingly would come from minorities and disillusioned and easily impressionable women without supportive, traditional familiy’s.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:00 pm to RebelExpress38
Wow. I just heard the news of that passing and it honestly hurt my heart. Its sick that people think this is ok.
Even more sick that people are literally celebrating this.
At first, I could understand the argument for women in the first trimester, before there was even a heartbeat and other thinge of that nature. I never made a big deal on that... But this... Wow.
Even more sick that people are literally celebrating this.
At first, I could understand the argument for women in the first trimester, before there was even a heartbeat and other thinge of that nature. I never made a big deal on that... But this... Wow.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:03 pm to shamrock
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As a MD who has seen full term stillborns
Hell, one poster on here would argue that that stillborn should have been aborted and saved the family the cost of a funeral. It is absolutely disgusting.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:04 pm to shamrock
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a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants
If delivering would cause a risk to the life of the mother.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:08 pm to BamaAtl
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a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants
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BamaAtl
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If delivering would cause a risk to the life of the mother.
And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.
As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:10 pm to ShoeBang
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As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.
Every bit of this. Every single bit.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:12 pm to Rebel
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Hopefully the courts will strike it down
What judicial ruling in the past makes you believe the courts will deem this law unconstitutional?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:17 pm to shamrock
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And no, to the poster that suggests 50 percent of these full term abortions would become conservative voters
I never said that.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:17 pm to ShoeBang
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And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.
As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.
Incredible Post.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:32 pm to FairhopeTider
I only read the first and last page of this thread, but it should be pointed out the law passed only legalized late-term abortions when the mother's health is at risk. I know that doesn't soften it much for ardent pro-lifers, but the thread title and subsequent comments aren't portraying it accurately.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:36 pm to The Spleen
quote:This has been emphasized in response to EVERY ONE of the misleading titles on all dozen or so threads addressing this new statute.
I only read the first and last page of this thread, but it should be pointed out the law passed only legalized late-term abortions when the mother's health is at risk. I know that doesn't soften it much for ardent pro-lifers, but the thread title and subsequent comments aren't portraying it accurately.
After their arses are handed to them with direct quotes to the statutory language, they let THAT thread die and then start ANOTHER new thread with ANOTHER misleading title.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:37 pm to ShoeBang
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And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.
And any reasonable society wouldn't force that choice upon her, leaving her other children without a mother.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:39 pm to The Spleen
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when the mother's health is at risk.
WTF does this mean. This is open for so much grey area interpretation. This is how it all starts to “normalize” it.
Also, what if the baby is viable to survive outside the womb? Should this be taken into account? Or is it still the moms choice because science is thrown out the window. There are plenty of very premature babies out there that survived being born early early. This is just another attempt to push the line.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:41 pm to olemissfan26
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This is how it all starts to “normalize” it.
The Slippery Slope.
Normalize what?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to DisplacedBuckeye
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Normalize what?
Late term abortions for babies that can survive outside the womb
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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Correct. Which is a vastly different discussion than the one that has been going on for the last 20+ pages.
Not really.
The "or health" category is wide open and it's not exactly some major leap to say an abortion doctor would happily take advantage of that wide lane.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to olemissfan26
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Late term abortions for babies that can survive outside the womb
How many states permit that?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:45 pm to olemissfan26
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WTF does this mean. This is open for so much grey area interpretation
Guessing it may be spelled out in the legislation. I'm simply pointing out the inaccuracy in the thread title. I generally agree with your post otherwise.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:46 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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A mother should be able to put down her child up until the age of 16 with no legal ramifications.
Da fuq?
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