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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth

Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:43 pm to
A mother should be able to put down her child up until the age of 16 with no legal ramifications.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
4138 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 3:45 pm to
As a MD who has seen full term stillborns, the idea of human beings celebrating the passage of a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants is mind boggling. These posters who are so pro abortion..to this point..are either in the abortion industry, completely clueless, or have some pathology from their pasts that feed this rationale. And no, to the poster that suggests 50 percent of these full term abortions would become conservative voters..these are the absolute most vulnerable among us and they overwhelmingly would come from minorities and disillusioned and easily impressionable women without supportive, traditional familiy’s.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17581 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:00 pm to
Wow. I just heard the news of that passing and it honestly hurt my heart. Its sick that people think this is ok.

Even more sick that people are literally celebrating this.

At first, I could understand the argument for women in the first trimester, before there was even a heartbeat and other thinge of that nature. I never made a big deal on that... But this... Wow.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:03 pm to
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As a MD who has seen full term stillborns


Hell, one poster on here would argue that that stillborn should have been aborted and saved the family the cost of a funeral. It is absolutely disgusting.
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:04 pm to
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a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants


If delivering would cause a risk to the life of the mother.
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
22271 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:08 pm to
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a law that ok’s abortion of viable infants

quote:

BamaAtl

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If delivering would cause a risk to the life of the mother.


And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.

As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:10 pm to
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As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.


Every bit of this. Every single bit.
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6-- the Brazos River Valley
Member since Sep 2015
32085 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:12 pm to
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Hopefully the courts will strike it down

What judicial ruling in the past makes you believe the courts will deem this law unconstitutional?
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:17 pm to
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And no, to the poster that suggests 50 percent of these full term abortions would become conservative voters

I never said that.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
22768 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:17 pm to
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And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.

As a father, if the doctor would have told me that they needed every drop of my blood to make sure my little girl came into this world safely, I would have asked for a bucket and a knife. My wife would have too. That is the responsibility you have as a parent from the moment of conception. It is no longer about you, it is about that kid. From a zygote to an adult.


Incredible Post.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:32 pm to
I only read the first and last page of this thread, but it should be pointed out the law passed only legalized late-term abortions when the mother's health is at risk. I know that doesn't soften it much for ardent pro-lifers, but the thread title and subsequent comments aren't portraying it accurately.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:36 pm to
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I only read the first and last page of this thread, but it should be pointed out the law passed only legalized late-term abortions when the mother's health is at risk. I know that doesn't soften it much for ardent pro-lifers, but the thread title and subsequent comments aren't portraying it accurately.
This has been emphasized in response to EVERY ONE of the misleading titles on all dozen or so threads addressing this new statute.

After their arses are handed to them with direct quotes to the statutory language, they let THAT thread die and then start ANOTHER new thread with ANOTHER misleading title.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:37 pm to
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And any woman worth her salt would gladly risk her life to give the infant in her womb a chance at a life she may never get to witness.


And any reasonable society wouldn't force that choice upon her, leaving her other children without a mother.
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6968 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:39 pm to
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when the mother's health is at risk.


WTF does this mean. This is open for so much grey area interpretation. This is how it all starts to “normalize” it.

Also, what if the baby is viable to survive outside the womb? Should this be taken into account? Or is it still the moms choice because science is thrown out the window. There are plenty of very premature babies out there that survived being born early early. This is just another attempt to push the line.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:41 pm to
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This is how it all starts to “normalize” it.


The Slippery Slope.

Normalize what?
Posted by olemissfan26
MS
Member since Apr 2012
6968 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Normalize what?


Late term abortions for babies that can survive outside the womb
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Correct. Which is a vastly different discussion than the one that has been going on for the last 20+ pages.


Not really.

The "or health" category is wide open and it's not exactly some major leap to say an abortion doctor would happily take advantage of that wide lane.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:44 pm to
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Late term abortions for babies that can survive outside the womb


How many states permit that?
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:45 pm to
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WTF does this mean. This is open for so much grey area interpretation



Guessing it may be spelled out in the legislation. I'm simply pointing out the inaccuracy in the thread title. I generally agree with your post otherwise.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 1/23/19 at 4:46 pm to
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A mother should be able to put down her child up until the age of 16 with no legal ramifications.

Da fuq?
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