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re: New York State Just Legalized Abortion up to Birth
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:06 pm to AUjim
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:06 pm to AUjim
quote:The "health risk" clause opens it up entirely.
Do people believe that this makes abortion legal in New York up until birth just for any reason?
Every liberal knows it. That's why they demand its inclusion.
Otherwise, they would require the clause to say PHYSICAL health risk.
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Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:07 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Nope.
Guy just quoted you verbatim from the law - it is.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:07 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
The "health risk" clause opens it up entirely.
Except that it doesn't.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:09 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Guy just quoted you verbatim from the law - it is.
Show me the phrase "serious health risk" or any variation thereof in the law.
I'll wait.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:09 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Except you know it does and you like that it does and you're willing to lie in order to ensure it does.
Except that it doesn't.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:14 pm to ShortyRob
The meaning of “or” is taught in schools these days, isn’t it?
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:15 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
quote:
No difference in the suffering experienced by the baby 5 minutes before birth and 5 minutes after. Why not libs?
5 minutes after? Why stop there. Let parents abort their children at anytime from conception until death (parents death).
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:15 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Because "incubator" or "parasite host" sounds mean.
Being a racist is also mean but you don't have any problem with that, so...
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:20 pm to TexasTiger86
quote:It's funny.
The meaning of “or” is taught in schools these days, isn’t it?
Because pages ago in this thread, they kept saying we supported women dying and quoted the law while basically ignoring the "health" clause while pretending or means and.
Then, once pressed, they want to claim the word "serious" is in there when it isn't as it relates to health.
What they do NOT want to and NEVER will do is discuss what is NOT included under the health clause.
Ya know why? Because they have no limits they want to see on that clause. NONE
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:21 pm to roadGator
quote:
How about deciding before entering kindergarten? Hard and fast rule. You can't kill your first grader.
Hmm you don't really know if they are shite until the teen years
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:23 pm to TbirdSpur2010
Where are progs on the rights of women to commit suicide, do drugs, sell their bodies for money or sell their organs? These are all things prohibited by law which infringe on a woman’s rights. Why is it that progs only see baby killing as the only hill they care to fight for?
Your lack of concern for these other important issues is very suspicious.
Your lack of concern for these other important issues is very suspicious.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:23 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
ShortyRob
You're my hero today. They stopped responding to me pages and pages ago after I was like the 4th person to absolutely dunk on them with logic based arguments. Looks like they latched on to you.
Keep up the good work.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:24 pm to thelawnwranglers
You guys joke but way back in like the early 90s, there was a rash of, or least a rash of well covered infanticides. Women killing babies right after birth.
A magazine called Psychology Today(I think) ran an article that I read and sat dumbfounded.
The writer argued that while it should be a crime, it should not be considered "murder" to kill your child before age 1 because studies showed that children under age 1 do not have a "sense of self". And, this writer asserted that meant they had not achieved personhood and therefore, could not legally be "murdered".
I felt like I was reading parody.
A magazine called Psychology Today(I think) ran an article that I read and sat dumbfounded.
The writer argued that while it should be a crime, it should not be considered "murder" to kill your child before age 1 because studies showed that children under age 1 do not have a "sense of self". And, this writer asserted that meant they had not achieved personhood and therefore, could not legally be "murdered".
I felt like I was reading parody.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:24 pm to ShreveportHog94
quote:
Did a doctor give a medical diagnosis to the mother stating she was at serious health risk for carrying this child to term? Did the child survive? Was there a life threatening condition?
This has nothing to do with my question. It’s legal to get an abortion of a perfectly normal fetus less than 24 weeks
We just need to establish some facts because all you do is dodge questions.
There are so many questions you can’t answer but you seem 100% sure that you aren’t killing a human being. It should be pretty straightforward for you to explain if that’s the case
This post was edited on 1/23/19 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:26 pm to RebelExpress38
New York can go frick itself. This is disgusting.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:28 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
Link to the medical doctor requirement on the "health" risk.
quote:
A HEALTH CARE PRACTITIONER LICENSED, CERTI-
FIED, OR AUTHORIZED UNDER TITLE EIGHT OF THE EDUCATION LAW, ACTING WITH-
IN HIS OR HER LAWFUL SCOPE OF PRACTICE, MAY PERFORM AN ABORTION WHEN,
ACCORDING TO THE PRACTITIONER'S REASONABLE AND GOOD FAITH PROFESSIONAL
JUDGMENT BASED ON THE FACTS OF THE PATIENT'S CASE: THE PATIENT IS WITHIN
TWENTY-FOUR WEEKS FROM THE COMMENCEMENT OF PREGNANCY, OR THERE IS AN
ABSENCE OF FETAL VIABILITY, OR THE ABORTION IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE
PATIENT'S LIFE OR HEALTH.
Unless you are playing a semantic game b/w MD and "practitioner," seems like its in the bill to me.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:32 pm to onmymedicalgrind
quote:Well. Um, that's not exactly semantics, now is it.
Unless you are playing a semantic game b/w MD and "practitioner,
Moreover, since we already know from prior case history that "health" includes mental health, it is of some interest that the person need not even be an expert in this particular field. (that ain't no accident)
But, I will grant that it is leaving the decision for the most part in a doctor's hands.
See. Unlike the libs in this thread, I can actually be honest in response to a point.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:34 pm to RebelExpress38
I'm moderate on abortion, but that's disturbing to me.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:35 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
You guys joke but way back in like the early 90s, there was a rash of, or least a rash of well covered infanticides. Women killing babies right after birth
A girl who had a crush on me did this. Carried her baby to term and gave birth without anyone knowing. Then smorthered it soon thereafter and stashed it in her trunk while it decayed. I knew people who rode in her car and she claimed the smell was moldy water and made people ride with windows open in the middle of winter. She was busted when her car got towed and they noticed the smell. Sad situation.
Obviously I attract a “certain” type of gal it would appear.
Posted on 1/23/19 at 2:36 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
A magazine called Psychology Today(I think) ran an article that I read and sat dumbfounded.
The writer argued that while it should be a crime, it should not be considered "murder" to kill your child before age 1 because studies showed that children under age 1 do not have a "sense of self". And, this writer asserted that meant they had not achieved personhood and therefore, could not legally be "murdered".
I felt like I was reading parody.
If you are ever to come across a copy of that, I almost want to read it for myself.
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