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re: New shooting in Minnesota
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:10 pm to BigTigerJoe
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:10 pm to BigTigerJoe
quote:
With mere seconds and a gun that was in his hand, they reacted in self defense.
Is the gun being in his hand on video or are you making that part up?
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:11 pm to TBoy
He was not there to protest.
No ID.
Fully loaded Sig.
Two additional mags.
~46 rounds.
Explain that TSoy.
He was there to kill....but the border patrol prevented him from completing his mission.
Sorry for your loss.
Well, not really.
No ID.
Fully loaded Sig.
Two additional mags.
~46 rounds.
Explain that TSoy.
He was there to kill....but the border patrol prevented him from completing his mission.
Sorry for your loss.
Well, not really.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:11 pm to JackHuntFTW
quote:
Legal gun owner and citizen is killed by federal agents for legally videoing them. This is isn’t a liberal/conservative issue. If you can’t see how that’s objectively wrong in this country then your soul is lost. I truly pity your loved ones.
I am a legal gun owner (whatever the frick that means).
I have a CHP.
I am required, by law (and the conditions of my permit) to advise law enforcement I am carrying when I interact with them in their LEO capacity. This is universal among states that issue such permits.
I bet this guy didn't do that and then decided to interfere in the arrest of the illegal, then resist arrest and made a move for his gun while resisting.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:11 pm to onmymedicalgrind
Making it up, they took it from him after they subdued him.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:11 pm to ABearsFanNMS
quote:
Once again what actions did Babbit do that justified deadly force?
For the down voters please explain what Babbit did to justify deadly force?
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:11 pm to G2160
quote:
If anyone was wondering, the left doesn’t actually care about facts or right/wrong here. They just want narratives and martyrs:
Throwing the "legal gun owner" on there like Maryland Dad is fricking amazing. Must be taught in their little webinars
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:12 pm to Westin
Can't see anything in that scrum
quote:
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Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:08 pm to arktiger28
This new angle is the clearest IMO
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:13 pm to The Tiger322
quote:
I agree, but if the guy running off had the guy's only gun, he therefore did not have access to it and therefore could not reach for it at the time of the shooting. I agree that knowing he has atleast one raises the tension level and you obviously cannot know if he has multiple, however, if he only has the one and the agents justification is he saw him reaching for it then it becomes harder to justify and looks worse for the agent/agenc
For those saying “well he could have had another gun,” well sure he could. But the argument for the officers just got harder.
1) He had a gun, and it appeared he was reaching for it so we had to shoot
vs
2) He had a gun, but we were able to disarm him. But we weren’t sure if he had another gun. so we shot.
The courts will find of those arguments much more compelling than the other.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:13 pm to AbuTheMonkey
quote:
The first video was unclear, but that is murder. Holy shite. These untrained morons have me supporting Twin Cities progressives. Never thought I'd see that day. For the record, I have been in more threatening situations than that, many times. We didn't do shite like that to Iraqis, armed or not, much less American citizens.
Sigh. Another “Audie Murphy” type coming here to lecture us all. Suspect had a gun, and was never subdued. A inherent public safety risk was neutralized. Clean shoot. Good kill.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:14 pm to lurking
Woof, if they approached him simply filming and then beat him up and took his gun and then killed him they need to be dealt with.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:14 pm to GeneralLee
Good shoot needs to happen more often.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:15 pm to rocksteady
quote:
Throwing the "legal gun owner" on there like Maryland Dad is fricking amazing. Must be taught in their little webinars
Exactly. These retards have no way of knowing if he was legally allowed to possess a firearm or not.
Nor do they know if the shooting was justified or not at this stage, but they’re ready to deny due process in this case for advancement of the cause
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:15 pm to LSUTANGERINE
quote:
Is there evidence or even a statement from the admin that this occurred?
They identified him as a threat, he was carrying 2 extra mags on him, would you say he was not a threat?
Again, are you going to say that his behavior and actions were not a credible threat to officers?
https://dps.mn.gov/divisions/bca/public-services-bca/firearms-information/permit-carry/permit-carry-faq
quote:
Permit to Carry frequently asked questions
Yes, upon request of a peace officer, a permit holder must disclose to the officer whether or not the permit holder is currently carrying a firearm.
Did he disclose?
Or did he confront LEO aggressively and threateningly, stalking their movements.
Why was he carrying no ID and extra Mags.
We allow police to make the call about imminent threat, in this case they sure seem to be right.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:16 pm to GeneralLee
The videos don’t look great but at the same time I don’t see how anyone can make a definitive conclusion one way or another. The guy can’t be interfering to that degree, while armed. Not going to end well.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:16 pm to Stat M Repairman
quote:
You fight the cops
They went out of their way to go after him and another woman. The bootlicking on this board extreme.
Clearly you all don't want to believe your eyes when watching the videos of the interaction. Guy is killed for filming and coming to the defense of a woman being pushed around by BP agent.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:17 pm to jrobic4
quote:
Is that a Sig p320? Surprised he didn't shoot himself first
It's a 226. High end.
And I own several 320s and have even drop tested them. The accidental discharge issue has been fixed.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:17 pm to JackHuntFTW
quote:
Legal gun owner and citizen is killed by federal agents for legally videoing them.
That's one way to look at it. Another way to look at it is he was led astray by liberal politicians and media telling him to shot ICE agents. Having a gun made him feel brave even though he had no intention of using it. His bravado led him to confront armed and dangerous law enforcement officers who are already tense and on heightened alert. And now he's dead because of it.
quote:
I truly pity your loved ones
Pity them because they have to breath the same air as dumbasses like you and him.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:17 pm to antibarner
You can see both hands.
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:18 pm to Narax
quote:What? Why would that be a threat?
They identified him as a threat, he was carrying 2 extra mags on him, would you say he was not a threat?
quote:I haven’t really seen that part
Again, are you going to say that his behavior and actions were not a credible threat to officers?
quote:I doubt he did. That’s still no reason to shoot him. Did he even reach for his gun at any point? Why would they shoot him there?
Did he disclose? Or did he confront LEO aggressively and threateningly, stalking their movements.
Are you sure he confronted them? I’ve heard they confronted him.
This post was edited on 1/24/26 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 1/24/26 at 2:18 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
Has it been confirmed that he was disarmed prior to the shooting? The video I’ve seen appears to the show an agent walking away with it before they unload. Again, if that’s the case, training is a real concern no matter your stance on ICE.
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