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re: Netherlands House passes 36% tax on UNREALIZED GAINS!
Posted on 2/13/26 at 10:53 am to mule74
Posted on 2/13/26 at 10:53 am to mule74
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Here’s what I’ve never understood when I’ve heard these proposals before. Are they going to give you a 36% tax credit on unrealized losses? When the market has a shite year, is the Dutch government going to have to come up with money for everyone?
Of course not.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 10:54 am to Powerman
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Sure. But this doesn't exist in the U.S
Yet…
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That won't happen though so it's silly to even discuss
Why do you Liberals live with your heads in the sand? This was discussed here during the last Administration.
These same WEF style tactics are being applied throughout the western world.
Just because it’s not here YET, doesn’t mean that you should pretend that it’ll never happen here. That’s how you wind up in a boxcar.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:00 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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My ole pawpaw said don't keep your money in a 401k, use it to buy land. Somebody's gonna pillage that pile of money one day, and land is one thing that we aren't likely to start printing more of.
land cost more than government taxes unfortunately today
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:07 am to bhtigerfan
Buy property in Dubai. The entire upper middle class of Europe will be moving there.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:07 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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My ole pawpaw said don't keep your money in a 401k, use it to buy land. Somebody's gonna pillage that pile of money one day, and land is one thing that we aren't likely to start printing more of.
Only issue with that is the tax on the land that’s charged every year.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:08 am to Placekicker
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Just because it’s not here YET, doesn’t mean that you should pretend that it’ll never happen here. That’s how you wind up in a boxcar.
Sure
Which is why I don't like the trend of expanding executive power that goes all the way back to the GWB administration
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:14 am to bhtigerfan
Good way to wreck your economy.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:19 am to mule74
quote:There’s going to have to be a program to calculate this every year. There’s going to be years where tax payers SHOULD receive a tax credit for unrealized losses, but then will probably pay it back with the gains tax the next year.
Here’s what I’ve never understood when I’ve heard these proposals before. Are they going to give you a 36% tax credit on unrealized losses? When the market has a shite year, is the Dutch government going to have to come up with money for everyone?
Long term, this is a terrible idea. If you have $100k in an account, with 30% gains ($30k), then you’d have a $10,800 tax bill (36%) on the gains in year 1. This should realize those $30k gains. Then in year 2, you won’t have nowhere close to the unrealized gains anymore, so your unrealized gains tax would be negligible (compared to year 1).
So this essentially provides a tax revenue boost in year 1, for the government to essentially waste, but a much lower tax revenue amount in future years as most have already paid taxes on the majority of those gains.
Am I understanding this correctly?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 11:21 am to bhtigerfan
This is actually somehow less fricked than their current system. It's still fricked but the current system taxes on "assumed" returns.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:06 pm to CDawson
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Corrupt government run by leftist filth will also steal your land
Well, it is stolen.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 12:09 pm to bhtigerfan
It’s not going to pass. Still, it’s disturbing.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:02 pm to RolltidePA
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collateralize loans
True. Sorta like the 1031 rules. Which also suck. Haha.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:07 pm to bhtigerfan
And capital will flow right out of Dutchiestan.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:12 pm to Penrod
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It’s not going to pass. Still, it’s disturbing.
You say that with confidence but their rules taxing notional returns already passed. Nothing surprises me over there anymore.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:29 pm to Powerman
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My ole pawpaw said don't keep your money in a 401k
My guess is that Papa did not pass generational wealth down to the kids. Perhaps 40 acres and a mule?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:38 pm to bhtigerfan
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Imagine buying a stock and it increases in value
What kind of volatility would this create in a stock market?
Posted on 2/13/26 at 2:46 pm to Pikes Peak Tiger
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And with that, anyone who can move out of the Netherlands will do so.
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Are you so naive that you don’t understand that that is EXACTLY the goal
The communists need to spread their misery to every corner of the globe so people who are free can't turn and laugh at the idiots who try it.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 3:35 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Withdraws from 401k and other retirement plans need a temporary 50% tax for the next 20 years, we also need to suspend Social Security Payments for the next 25 years
Posted on 2/13/26 at 4:04 pm to Placekicker
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If you can’t pay the tax on your unrealized capital gains, how do you think they will get their money? They will seize your property and sell it. PS- very few of us can absorb having to pay unrealized capital gains taxes at 36% on our properties and retirement funds every year. This is Agenda 2030- you will own nothing and be happy.
You people put too much emphasis on government and forget about their partners. People will sell so they have the money to pay the taxes. The only people will the money to buy it will be the global elites. This tax is just another scheme for the rich to get richer and the government gets a little extra money to steal on the side.
Posted on 2/13/26 at 4:07 pm to bhtigerfan
Do they give me money on realized losses?
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