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re: Netanyahu Defies Trump's Order not to Strike Iran
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:40 am to Chuck Barris
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:40 am to Chuck Barris
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Trump has lost control of the situation.
I’d suggest he’s changed his position, and that is the root cause of the issue.
If Trump tells Iran they have no control over another sovereign nation (Lebanon) - which should be the case - it frees Isreal to eliminate Hezbollah and allows US to focus pressure on Iran.
Instead, Trump is throwing Hezbollah a lifeline. That’s the part I don’t get. It perpetuates what he originally set out to eliminate.
When you throw a terrorist organization a lifeline, you look like you are negotiating from a position of weakness.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 9:44 am
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Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:48 am to AlterEd
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Netanyahu Defies Trump's Order not to Strike Iran
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:52 am to AlterEd
The time has passed for negotiations, fire up the bombers or appear to be led around by the nose by Iran like so many presidents before.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 9:56 am to AlterEd
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:10 am to AlterEd
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Netanyahu is fricking with the bull.
That motherfricker knew anything to do with oil and production was off limits, but he did it anyway.
Then Levin wasted no time saying it was within Israel’s right.
This post was edited on 6/8/26 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:20 am to BobBoucher
quote:I get the feeling that Trump and possibly also Netanyahu thought this would be another Venezuela situation. We strike the Iranian leadership, kill them all, possibly free Ahmadinejad to elevate him as the new leader, and it's over in 24 hours. That would also explain why we didn't have a better plan to stop Iran from closing the strait, which is what everyone has known for forty-five years would be their first response to a serious attack.
Instead, Trump is throwing Hezbollah a lifeline. That’s the part I don’t get. It perpetuates what he originally set out to eliminate.
Things are actually working out really well for Israel. They've hammered Hamas and Hezbollah, they control more of Lebanon than ever before, and Iran's conventional weapons have been degraded. If I was them, I'd be doing the same thing, just keep going in Lebanon and tell the Americans "Oh, we're just responding to attacks on our own forces." Iran is more America's problem than Israel's at the moment.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 10:28 am to Chuck Barris
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get the feeling that Trump and possibly also Netanyahu thought this would be another Venezuela situation.
This is pretty much where I’ve been the past several weeks.
DJT either thought or was convinced we’d hit them hard, take out a couple of levels of leadership and the Islamic Republic’s government would fall within relative quick order.
That did not happen and DJT has been looking and looking and looking more for an exit ramp and “a deal” ever since.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 11:03 am to Great Plains Drifter
Now they're saying both sides have quit firing after daddy told them to knock their bullshite off.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 12:28 pm to AlterEd
quote:If Trump is a dad, then he's the kind of dad who thinks he's a good disceplinarian because he yells at his kids to settle down every five minutes.
Now they're saying both sides have quit firing after daddy told them to knock their bullshite off.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:04 pm to scrooster
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mudhole them into oblivion.
Were these your exact thoughts when the girls school was obliterated? Those children were asking for it?
Some of y'all on this board love war because it's not your losses that get counted.
Posted on 6/8/26 at 8:18 pm to RemyLeBeau
Some fools never learn
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:07 am to AlterEd
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Now they're saying both sides have quit firing after daddy told them to knock their bullshite off.
Ahem.
Israeli air strikes hit Lebanese city of Tyre
quote:
Israel has carried out strikes across southern Lebanon, despite a warning from Iran not to continue attacks in the country.
The Lebanese health ministry said eight people were killed in Tyre, where the Israeli military issued a new order for residents to leave the southern city, including its Christian quarter for the first time.
Israel and Iran paused hostilities on Monday, after an Israeli strike on Beirut targeting the Iranian-backed armed group Hezbollah triggered their first exchange of fire since a truce in April.
Iran warned that it could hit Israel again if it did not stop attacks in Lebanon. But Israel vowed to continue its campaign against Hezbollah.
The conflict is complicating President Donald Trump's efforts to strike a deal to end the war between the US, Israel and Iran.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:10 am to Chuck Barris
Ok. And?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:18 am to AlterEd
Let's pretend that Canada and Mexico were both shooting missiles and hitting targets in the USA and Israel demanded that we do not retaliate.. what do you think the USA would do in that situation? Would we listen to them and still allow Canada and Mexico to keep attacking us?
It's the same concept
It's the same concept
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:20 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:20 am to FLTech
We do not rely on Israel for our defense. So no, it is not that simple.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:21 am to Chuck Barris
quote:
I get the feeling that Trump and possibly also Netanyahu thought this would be another Venezuela situation.
Trump? Yes.
Bibi? No.
Israel just wants us in a war against their mortal enemy to trigger civil war within Iran so they can fill the void.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 11:30 am
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:22 am to tide06
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Iran just wants us in a war against their mortal enemy to trigger civil war within Iran so they can fill the void.
Nothing about this statement makes a lick of sense.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 11:31 am to AlterEd
Israel wants us at war with Iran, clearly it was a typo.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:04 pm to AlterEd
It's called a hypothetical dude.
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