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re: Net neutrality, what is this boards consensus?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:06 pm to joshnorris14
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:06 pm to joshnorris14
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2. Opposing it would spur innovation that would kick the current systems arse
No, it would stifle internet creativity. All it does is limit what we can see. I don't even see how you can make an argument that Comcast or Time Warner dictating the internet would inspire creativity. All it would do is take corporatism to a far higher degree on the internet than it currently is.
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Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:08 pm to OMLandshark
I do not work in a field that will be directly impacted either way, although I do work somewhat on the Internet.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:08 pm to OMLandshark
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No, it would stifle internet creativity.
This is just absolutely false. Again I ask, what do you know about mesh networks?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:10 pm to 225bred
The phrase "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" applies really well. Net neutrality ensures all data is treated equal by internet service providers. If ISPs could pick and choose what to speed up and what to slow down, they could charge web services a premium to get into the "fast lane". So big companies would thrive and small ones would fail because their websites would be slower and more of a pain to use for consumers. Repealing net neutrality is seen as a free market move, but this is one case were the free market would do a lot of damage. The internet isn't broken. Stop trying to fix it.
ETA: And another thing, big media companies like Viacom are terrified of the internet. Social Media is a big competitor for your free time. A lot of young people would rather watch videos on youtube or scroll through reddit or fb feeds instead of watching TV. That scares the shite out of them. You know they would throw big $$$ into a net neutrality free system to find a way to discourage people from spending as much time on those sites and watch more of their programming.
ETA: And another thing, big media companies like Viacom are terrified of the internet. Social Media is a big competitor for your free time. A lot of young people would rather watch videos on youtube or scroll through reddit or fb feeds instead of watching TV. That scares the shite out of them. You know they would throw big $$$ into a net neutrality free system to find a way to discourage people from spending as much time on those sites and watch more of their programming.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:13 pm to td01241
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the government should not be in the Internet business.
So let's give a medium of free speech to Comcast where they get to dictate the rules. Have you dealt with these twats? They could frick up a ham sandwich and laugh in your face when they do.
They literally told me when I went to cancel my dead grandmother's subscription with them that she has to go down there to personally cancel it. And there have been other posters on this site who that's happened to and I've got 4 more horror stories with them. I will fight with all my power make sure that the 4 worst companies in the nation don't get to dictate free speech and creativity.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:14 pm to 225bred
They better not take shitposting away
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:14 pm to AggieDub14
quote:
The phrase "if it ain't broken, don't fix it" applies really well. Net neutrality ensures all data is treated equal by internet service providers. If ISPs could pick and choose what to speed up and what to slow down, they could charge web services a premium to get into the "fast lane". So big companies would thrive and small ones would fail because their websites would be slower and more of a pain to use for consumers. Repealing net neutrality is seen as a free market move, but this is one case were the free market would do a lot of damage. The internet isn't broken. Stop trying to fix it.
ETA: And another thing, big media companies like Viacom are terrified of the internet. Social Media is a big competitor for your free time. A lot of young people would rather watch videos on youtube or scroll through reddit or fb feeds instead of watching TV. That scares the shite out of them. You know they would throw big $$$ into a net neutrality free system to find a way to discourage people from spending as much time on those sites and watch more of their programming.
Yes, thank you. Upvote.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:16 pm to OMLandshark
I know Comcast is a bunch of dickheads. So is Verizon.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:16 pm to OMLandshark
You keep ignoring my question. What do you know about mesh networks?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:21 pm to td01241
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I do not work in a field that will be directly impacted either way, although I do work somewhat on the Internet.
Your quality of life and job will be impacted. All they want you to do is livestream and view the mainstream networks, and then pay a premium to surf a site like this, making it 100 times more difficult for sites to pop up or to make money through the internet.
The internet isn't broke people. I think you can only frick it up by ending net neutrality. There's a reason why every internet and technology company is against, and communications and the Big 6 are for it. They want control and more cash, while the technology/internet companies just want to keep on doing the same shite they've been doing and to not frick it all up.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:24 pm to 225bred
One of the few regulations I am for.
Without it, you would have a handful of companies controlling all of the data and you would pay dearly for it. Netflix would get hit hard by it for example.
Without it, you would have a handful of companies controlling all of the data and you would pay dearly for it. Netflix would get hit hard by it for example.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:25 pm to joshnorris14
I know very little (i.e. virtually nothing) about mesh networks. Can you please expound a little more on how opposing net neutrality would spur innovation? My relatively uninformed brain is telling me that it would have the opposite effect.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:25 pm to joshnorris14
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You keep ignoring my question. What do you know about mesh networks?
Why haven't mesh networks taken off as an alternative to traditional ISP's in localities with no competition already?
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:27 pm to stout
Sometimes government is a necessary evil. We need a rule in place saying all internet data must be treated equally.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:27 pm to joshnorris14
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You keep ignoring my question. What do you know about mesh networks?
I don't know much about them, but explain to me why handing off control of the internet to 3 companies that don't directly compete and only want control is a good idea. It just blows my mind how anyone thinks that those companies wouldn't highly abuse their power as they have repeatably.
The US government doesn't care what you do on the internet so long as it's not in child porn, talking to underage kids, or getting into the drug market. Comcast has direct incentive to frick you over to make more money. No matter how many times I hear a counter argument, no one has been able to tell me why this is a good idea save for capitalism.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:27 pm to OMLandshark
I don't care if Comcast throttles Netflix. The government should not have their hands on the greatest invention ever.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:29 pm to 225bred
Only one entity is capable of screwing over Americans more than our government, and it is internet service providers. I'm 99.9% for smaller government, but this regulation is necessary.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:29 pm to OMLandshark
Isn't net neutrality pretty new? Everything that happened with the internet up until about a year ago was pre-net neutrality?
Edit: And those are genuine questions. I don't know.
Edit: And those are genuine questions. I don't know.
This post was edited on 1/23/17 at 6:32 pm
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:29 pm to td01241
quote:I agree on principle, but the problem is that there may only be one alternative choice, if any at all.
I don't care if Comcast throttles Netflix. The government should not have their hands on the greatest invention ever.
It's hard to make a free-market choice, if there aren't any choices. Although, I'm not well-versed on this so I'm not sure where I stand.
Posted on 1/23/17 at 6:30 pm to OMLandshark
You summed up my thoughts
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