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re: NC to allow foreign trained dr's to practice with no licensing exams.

Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:32 pm to
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:32 pm to
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3: They must pass the US licensing requirements after a certain amount of time or they have to go back
US medical students start having to pass USMLE boards during medical school, long before they can practice independently. Are these people going to be required to do the same?
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 8:33 pm to
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There is a way that we can use tax policy to attract doctors to underserved communities. Shipping in foreigners is the easy and cheap option though.


I’m not a doctor or even very familiar with the medical industry but I’d bet that the insurance industry and HMO’s are a big disincentive for doctors to open a private practice and work in underserved rural areas.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75105 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:13 pm to
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Only work in impoverished areas eh ? I take offense to this. The governor that signed it , everyone that voted for it and their families should be forced to see one of these scholarly baboos as part of their insurance coverage

Even that part isn't really being presented accurately in this thread:

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(a) The Board may issue an "internationally-trained physician employee license" to practice medicine and surgery to a physician when the Board has received satisfactory verification of all of the following requirements:
(1) The applicant has been offered employment as a physician in a full-time capacity at (i) a hospital that is located in North Carolina and licensed by the State of North Carolina or (ii) a medical practice located in a rural county with a population of less than 500 people per square mile, in North Carolina, where a physician fully licensed by the State under this Chapter is physically practicing on-site at the rural medical practice.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75105 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:24 pm to
It seems that other states have similar programs, and it would probably surprise a lot of people some of the states included in that group.
Posted by Cajun67
alexandria
Member since Jul 2021
596 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:34 pm to
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Anyone who figures “we don’t have to pay them as much and can charge the same”.
so white collar jobs welcome to the party of out sourcing !
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 9:41 pm to
I’m sure Health Commissioner RFK, jr. will be outraged by this. Oh, wait, he took his kids swimming in sewage. Nevermind.
Posted by Boomdaddy65201
BoCoMo
Member since Mar 2020
4522 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 10:25 pm to
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There is a way that we can use tax policy to attract doctors to underserved communities


Then N.C. is fricking stupid and their representatives have already failed their constituents.

In Mo. we’ve had ORHPC(the Missouri Office of Rural Health & Primary Care) that was empowered by the state legislature and in conjunction with the Medical School at MU that provides grants and free tuition in exchange for contractual services post medical school completion since 1995(I had to look it up). It was codified into Mo. state law as of 2022 as 19 CSR 10-3.040 Rural Primary Care Physicians Grant Program. The future doctors that choose this route come out of medical school with no debt post residency and a job waiting for them with a guaranteed comparative salary.

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Office of Rural Health and Primary Care (ORHPC), provides funding to rural physicians beginning practice after July 1, 2022, in a Missouri county with a population of fewer than thirty-five thousand (35,000) inhabitants in return for providing primary care clinical services in rural Missouri.

Begin providing primary care services after July 1, 2022, in a Missouri rural county, in which they have not previously practiced;

Primary Care is defined as: General Medicine, Family Medicine, Internal Medicine, Pediatrics, Obstetrics and Gynecology

Reside in the same Missouri rural county in which services will be provided;

Not have previously received an award of funds under the Rural Primary Care Physician Grant Program;
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75105 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:01 pm to
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Then N.C. is fricking stupid and their representatives have already failed their constituents.

In Mo.

Interesting.

Missouri has a very similar program for foreign/international doctors that they put in place in 2021, I think. North Carolina's program seems to be modeled after it for the most part. Missouri's bill was also geared towards getting more doctors in rural areas.

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Missouri has opened new doors for International Medical Graduates (IMGs) by allowing them to practice medicine without completing a U.S. residency. This initiative aims to address physician shortages in underserved areas while providing qualified IMGs an opportunity to contribute their skills.


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Missouri’s Law on IMGs Practicing Without U.S. Residency

In 2021, Missouri passed a groundbreaking law permitting international medical gradutes to practice under the supervision of a licensed physician without completing a traditional U.S. residency program. This law makes Missouri one of the few states offering alternative pathways for IMGs to integrate into the healthcare workforce.

According to Missouri law, International medical graduates may be eligible for a restricted license or temporary license if they meet specific criteria set forth by the state. These licenses allow them to practice medicine, but with certain conditions, including limitations on the scope of practice or supervision requirements.


LINK



This post was edited on 8/16/25 at 11:03 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173614 posts
Posted on 8/16/25 at 11:18 pm to
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Well that will really help the folks they kill.

Yeah...so let's presume the reason they are doing this is because a shortage of doctors in those areas. I see it as a reasonable solution to ensure those people have access to medical care. You see it through the most retarded lens imaginable. As if doctors from other countries can't also be competent.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
13430 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 12:28 am to
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I see it as a reasonable solution to ensure those people have access to medical care.


I do too, but I think there are other solutions that might be better.

Such as utilizing interns from US med schools, utilizing more NPs and PAs, using tax incentives (as already mentioned).

An imported labor force is going to be transient anyway. Nobody wants to practice in these rural areas and the foreign doctors are just looking for a pathway to get to greener pastures somehow, just like an intern would be.

For me it's not about thinking that a foreign doctor wouldn't know enough, it's about avoiding our own issues by just importing immigrants to do the work Americans don't want to do.

Haven't we had enough of that? Isn't it time to figure out how to get Americans to do what Americans need?
This post was edited on 8/17/25 at 12:34 am
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
3571 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 6:39 am to
That’s still some bullshite. They shouldn’t practice AT ALL until they pass our tests
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1889 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:03 am to
At a bare minimum, shouldn't the law specify the countries where this is OK. Shouldn't there at least be an evaluation of the licensing practices of the countries?
Posted by Marquesa
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2020
1889 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:09 am to
At a bare minimum, shouldn't the law specify the countries where this is OK. Shouldn't there at least be an evaluation of the licensing practices of the countries?
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18861 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:11 am to
I could take chat GPT into an exam room and be a better doctor than these fake doctors.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23997 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:12 am to
Go to a Nurse Practitioner then.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
37514 posts
Posted on 8/17/25 at 7:22 am to
Save it. Most here think it will be Bapu or Kweisi with degrees from Lusaka State University Correspondence Medical School.

If we could convince some German , French and Argentinian doctors to come, in my mind that would be a plus. They are very good and in most cases just as good or better trained.

Also, Japanese docs are very good.
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