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re: My take is that Russia and China have gotten together in secret and will attack

Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:53 am to
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108563 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:53 am to
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Ukraine will be much easier for Russia than Taiwan for China. Roll tanks across the border and the rout is on.


That’s definitely true. If and when China invades Taiwan, it’s going to make the Fall of Afghanistan look like nothing, especially since we’ll see it all too. The Taiwanese are the most tech savvy people in the world and China isn’t going to blow up their infrastructure or technology on mass since that’s what they’re after.

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Amphibious assault is a tricky business. Landing craft have to be deployed and are subject to bombing and strafing. Landing on a beach and running into gunfire and artillery is no picnic. Can China do this? Have they ever?


The People’s Republic of China hasn’t, but the Chinese people have been going back and forth with Taiwan for centuries and managed to reconquer it several times.

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Taiwan is armed to the teeth. China will have it's troops butchered, but won't care.


You know what makes it really sick: this is a perk for Xi Jinping. He’s got a disproportionately male population he’s got to deal with, so what better than to make them cannon fodder?
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 9:57 am
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68307 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 9:59 am to
You voted for this.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
2986 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:00 am to
Will we need to be wearing masks when they attack?
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 10:01 am
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:42 am to
burger bearcat -

IMO Putin is doing it less for economic reasons but for popularity, he's doing a wag the dog.
Posted by lsufb1912
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2021
5965 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 10:49 am to
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Good. It's their business, not ours.


That's an ironic thing to say on the anniversary of Pearl Harbor. It's not our business until they make it ours?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:13 pm to
Exactly, if the line isn't drawn now, it will be drawn a lot closer to the USA a little bit later and we will regret not acting now.
Posted by TigerCoon
Member since Nov 2005
18866 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:17 pm to
Tell us how this is Trump's fault.
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
68315 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:24 pm to
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When you start seeing Chicom troops holding military exercises with Russians on Europe's/Nato's border many of the Eastern NATO member countries are going to shite a brick.


It will be fine, since a bunch of these countries are going to be carbon neutral in 10 years
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15421 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:30 pm to
China, Russia and Joe are all on the same team.

Russia won’t attack Uknraine. It doesn’t need to.

This is some twisted gang initiation and why it’s a problem that Joe owes Vlad and Pooh Bear for putting Dr. Jill’s monogram on the guest towels in the White House.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Bow dude72
Member since Mar 2017
2332 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 12:45 pm to
WOLVERINES!!!!!
Posted by LSUfan20005
Member since Sep 2012
8817 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:00 pm to
And then they’ll send American boys off to die, while they complete the socialist takeover back home.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:02 pm to
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Bring on the communist overlords right?


And both groups are anti muslim,...what will the left do?
Posted by LakeCharles
USA
Member since Oct 2016
5058 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:10 pm to
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They’re going to make it your fricking business when they take over the world chip supply. You think the supply chain and prices are bad now, wait until China invades Taiwan.

Things will get really bad. China will not lose in a war with Taiwan, and a smart Taiwanese leader would have made sure there were lots and lots of C4 incorporated into any new semiconductor plants when they were built to be able to limit any gain in case of a war loss. Actually, it does not even need to be C4 - certain chemicals in the right places would probably destroy the ability to process the semiconductors with the equipment, or even in the building. If the world loses even one of the cutting-edge plants, it will have an effect for many years.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52805 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 1:19 pm to
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It’s infinitely more likely that neither event will happen at all.



Statistically speaking, we're at a 50/50 split. But "infinitely" sounds more dramatic.
Posted by Zarkinletch416
Deep in the Heart of Texas
Member since Jan 2020
8389 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 2:26 pm to
Another Pearl Harbor Suprise Attack in the making?

Peace through Strength - Ronald Reagan

Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47649 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:06 pm to
Couldn’t China just release a virus… oh wait
Posted by JackieTreehorn
Malibu
Member since Sep 2013
29101 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:08 pm to
China has us by the short and curlies.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26436 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:16 pm to
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Statistically speaking, we're at a 50/50 split. But "infinitely" sounds more dramatic.


I genuinely believe that it is incalculably more likely that neither Russia nor China do anything in the short term than it is that both events happen at the same time.

Neither country wants a war. Blustering is part of both nations' foreign policy and has been for some time--they are bullies, and they are masterful at manipulating a Western media that is more devoted to sowing internal discord for clicks than accurately depicting geopolitical events. Both of their economies are just as fragile as ours at the moment, and neither country is where they want to be from a military modernization standpoint (yet).

Russia in particular cannot run the risk of the situation in Ukraine ballooning on them to include NATO. Russia cannot beat NATO in a protracted engagement.

China has the distance factor to their advantage, however they are not capable of easily taking Taiwan at the moment either. They have zero ability to get an amphibious fleet across the strait without massive losses.

Any "alliance" between the two will flame out spectacularly at some point. Their interests in the Far East, Arctic, and Central Asia are totally opposed to one another.
This post was edited on 12/7/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
4934 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 3:44 pm to
I assume the Dems would blame this on Trump? They always screamed that he would get us into WW3, guess they’ll claim he put it on layaway.
Posted by FredBear
Georgia
Member since Aug 2017
15011 posts
Posted on 12/7/21 at 4:41 pm to
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My take is that Russia and China have gotten together in secret and will attack



Maybe you'll get lucky and another black dude will run over a bunch of white kids and you will have something to crack jokes about. That should help keep your mind off Russia and China
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