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re: My perception during COVID was Ron was doing a good job. But Fl. was 3rd in deaths.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:22 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:22 pm to Lsut81
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What does it matter?
Public health is important.
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And all studies have shown that mitigation efforts were useless
No they haven't. Stop lying.
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Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:24 pm to keakar
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how dare you bring up facts to prove trump was right and the ronbots fake narrative is fake
So you agree that Florida was 3rd Worst in the Nation in its OVERALL handling of Covid?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:25 pm to LSUconvert
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No they haven't. Stop lying.
Mitigation efforts around the world did virtually nothing, not enough to take away peoples freedoms. Any difference was negligible at best.
Most groups including pretty liberal ones have admitted that masks and social distance did effectively nothing.
You are wrong.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:33 pm to the808bass
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I love how the Trump posters sound exactly like the mainstream media when criticizing DeSantis.
I've said it before. They use the same tactics that the far left and their media arm use when attacking Trump, conservatives. It's mind numbing.
Trump's record with Covid, Fauci, and shite related to that time is awful, and he has no business attacking anyone else over covid.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:38 pm to Lsut81
quote:False. No study has shown that.
And all studies have shown that mitigation efforts were useless…
quote:Completely different argument. That was even made clear at the time.
those numbers would have happened one way or the other.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:47 pm to the808bass
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I love how the Trump posters sound exactly like the mainstream media when criticizing DeSantis.
It's just a political equal and opposite reaction to all the Trump hate on this board by the Ron supporters.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:51 pm to GumboPot
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Also Flo Rida was 18th per capita.
So 18th per capita even though Florida probably has the highest percentage of seniors in the country dealing with a virus that overwhelmingly impacted seniors (in terms of significant illness/death) all the while not crippling the state's economy?
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My perception during COVID was Ron was doing a good job.
Sounds like your perception during COVID was right on. Not sure why it isn't anymore.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:52 pm to GumboPot
Ok. It’s just trolling. That makes sense.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 1:56 pm to Fun Bunch
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So you agree that Florida was 3rd Worst
facts are facts, they were 3rd worst in deaths, period.
moving the goal posts doesnt change the fact what trump said was true
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:00 pm to GumboPot
DeSantis started off in the herd, but really did his homework and made sound policy decisions. He used the limited testing tools to help keep covid out of nursing homes and the elderly population insofar as possible while not trying to strangle the economy for those at low risk.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:01 pm to GumboPot
He did a great job. Florida was open.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:03 pm to ItNeverRains
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Ron handled Covid better than Trump.
Trump had the disadvantage of being advised by Fauci, the CDC, and WHO. He was "following the science" of the time. None of us or Trump were privy to the true intent and "knowledge" of the bad advice/politics of Covid at that time.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:05 pm to keakar
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facts are facts, they were 3rd worst in deaths, period.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:06 pm to BFIV
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Trump had the disadvantage of being advised by Fauci
If only he was in a position to not take Fauci's orders or advice.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:09 pm to BFIV
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None of us or Trump were privy to the true intent and "knowledge" of the bad advice/politics of Covid at that time.
DeSantis and Kemp apparently were. And guess who still has jobs while the other sits at home crying all day?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:11 pm to GumboPot
quote:Back in 2022, I saw an age-adjusted chart that showed Florida was in the 30's, while Cali was #3 behind New Jersey and I forget who.
Was it because Florida as a lot of retirees?
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:18 pm to GumboPot
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Also Flo Rida was 18th per capita.
Now compare 2020. You only used 2021. From the same website you used, FLORIDA was 40th in death rate per 100k. Their rate was 56.4.
Here are some other states an their death rate for 2020.
New York - 139.1
New Jersey - 141.6
Illinois - 99.2
California - 68.7
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:19 pm to BFIV
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Trump had the disadvantage of being advised by Fauci, the CDC, and WHO. He was "following the science" of the time.
Am I the only that finds this a ridiculous defense of Trump? You're arguing that a chief executive cannot be expected to know when his subordinates are lying, and in fact are conspiring to have the chief executive shitcanned.
Are we supposed to be giving Biden the same pass? He's not a border expert or military planner, and he's definitely not an economist - does he get a pass for the dumpster fires his administration has started?
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None of us or Trump were privy to the true intent and "knowledge" of the bad advice/politics of Covid at that time.
This is bullshite. The narrative that "everyone was onboard at the time with what was being done" is Democrat-level revisionist history.
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:20 pm to David_DJS
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Am I the only that finds this a ridiculous defense of Trump?
I already jokingly addressed it.
He was the President, the leader of the Executive Branch, and Fauci was a member of the Executive Branch.
Totally absurd
Posted on 5/15/23 at 2:23 pm to GumboPot
And African countries handled covid well because the average age is 19.
We aren't praising African leaders because covid results around the world were due more to luck than leadership.
We aren't praising African leaders because covid results around the world were due more to luck than leadership.
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