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re: Michael Flynn crosses way over line, calls for Myanmar-like coup in US

Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:36 pm to
Posted by Rebel
Graceland
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:36 pm to
At one time George Washington was considered an insurrectionist.

Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
55659 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

3 star general should not be saying stuff like this.


Why?
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:39 pm to
quote:

semantics


Caring you stupid isn't arguing semantics
Posted by Big Jim Slade
Member since Oct 2016
6341 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:47 pm to
His proposed coup would only be a reaction to the silent coup that actually took place.
Posted by FlexDawg
Member since Jan 2018
14497 posts
Posted on 5/30/21 at 11:59 pm to
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A 3 star general should not be saying stuff like this.


You’re right, he should just ignore a rigged election like you are.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
63087 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:04 am to
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His proposed coup would only be a reaction to the silent coup that actually took place.



It's easier to pretend the election wasn't stolen for some people than to recognize what a rational response to a stolen election would be.
Posted by KCMIZSEC
Member since Sep 2013
2199 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:05 am to
I'd be a little salty with the US government too if I were him.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
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Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:08 am to
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at a QAnon conference,
cringe
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
17244 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:19 am to
No it's a QAnon Conference

LINK
Posted by GregMaddux
LSU Fan
Member since Jun 2011
18717 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:25 am to
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Myanmar


Is that the discount pharmacy
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:25 am to
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No it's a QAnon Conference

There's no denying it now.....Business Insider says so.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17966 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:30 am to
I wish he hadn't said it, but I also wish that he hadn't been denied basic justice in this country by a judge who wouldn't dismiss a case when both the plaintiff and defendant moved to do so. Flynn was screwed by his country.

Flynn knows more than any of us about a lot of shady stuff going down. I don't agree with his statement, but I also don't know what he knows.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2800 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:34 am to
Well they stole the fricking election in Myanmar.

The court system is designed so that people do not have to take justice into their own hands because that gets really fuzzy. A system of laws should be in place to establish what is legal and what is not and what the penalties are for disobeying those laws. Wait! We have that. The perception is that they only seem to apply to one side.

When grievances are not addressed and consistently disregarded without any investigation or trial it’s easy to see why people would be upset. Why not hear some evidence? Make that shite like the OJ trial.

Also: Michael Flynn’s life was ruined because some chicken shite activist attorney took the fall for doctored 302s following a completely bogus investigation paid for by a rival political party. Then, when the prosecution dropped the case-the activist judge decided “nah- I got this.”

It’s amazing to me the shite you people ignore.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 12:44 am to
Which is the more reasonable assumption:

(1) Flynn was referring to the point that a fraudulent election was nullified, rejected and overturned in Myanmar and same should happen here.

Or

(2) Flynn was referring to the point that a fraudulent election was nullified, rejected and overturned in Myanmar and same should happen here with a violent military coup.

??
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53470 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:25 am to
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It's easier to pretend the election wasn't stolen for some people than to recognize what a rational response to a stolen election would be.


Well I mean, it gets exceptionally easy when even given venues to present evidence...they didn’t.

You even had Rudy changing his tune bound by evidentiary standards of a court room explicitly saying in direct question from the judge saying that it was their position that there was no widespread voter fraud.

I was livid at first at all of the circumstantial evidence that came out at first. But then it shifted to the Trump campaign.

If there was a legit coup attempt, you have to hold Trump accountable for failing to defend democracy by not safeguarding the process, not being prepared to fight for it (compare what he did to the legal effort from Bush in 2000), and not organizing the claims in a rapid and targeted manner. As opposed to throwing 100s of pages of unverified maybes and hoping something stuck.

The most telling to me? How much was said in public trying to rabble rouse (where if you honestly felt you had a legal case you would NEVER do until it was formally filed) but never actually was put in a brief....anywhere.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 2:51 am
Posted by davyjones
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Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:35 am to
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You even had Rudy changing his tune bound by evidentiary standards of a court room explicitly saying in direct question from the judge saying that it was their position that there was no widespread voter fraud.

I don't think that's an accurate rendition of the incident. I believe that was one question from one judge in one of many lawsuits in one of many states. The legal challenges and allegations of election wrongdoing were divided into two completely different categories: 1) actual fraud and illegal election tampering; and 2) illegitimate votes resulting from unconstitutional state and local voting laws/regulations.

That particular lawsuit involved #2, thus the correct and obvious answer to the question put to him was "No Your Honor, no fraud is alleged."
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
31531 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 1:46 am to
He shouldn’t be saying that period, but especially not with all of the 1/6 insurrection crap we keep hearing. This adds fuel to the fire
Posted by Volvagia
Fort Worth
Member since Mar 2006
53470 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:07 am to
Yes. But Pennsylvania was one of the main hotbeds of accusations of fraud. Even limiting the scope of statement to within that state it’s damning.

Especially as they continued to use affidavits from witnesses in the state as support of claims of fraud in social media (but not legal)

And even adding your additional qualifier it still doesn’t fit, because again, in media he claimed it was using these changes of laws to stack the pile with illegitimate votes.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 2:09 am
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
36755 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 2:31 am to
While I agree with you that in both categories all alleged roads lead to illegitimate votes that shouldn't have been counted.....one (1) results from knowingly illicit and even illegal activity, while the other (2) results from improper/unconstitutional allowances from election officials, whether said improper/unconstitutional allowances were known to be that or even if the officials believed they had legal authority to act as such.

My understanding of the bases for the Pennsylvania challenges were things like allowing for "rehabilitation" of mail in ballots that should have otherwise been tossed and/or counting ballots that should have otherwise been deemed received untimely and/or lesser things like precinct officials disallowing appropriate observation by Republican poll observers.
This post was edited on 5/31/21 at 2:33 am
Posted by Yoda Baby
Member since May 2021
128 posts
Posted on 5/31/21 at 3:05 am to
Flynn is wrong here. I don’t want the joke that is the US Military Officer Corps running this country anymore than I want the retards in the democrat party running it.
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