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re: Lot of Gun Control Talk from the left...........but what are their actual proposals?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:42 am to Friscodog
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:42 am to Friscodog
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To what size? 5 rounds? less?
15. Talking handguns here, but basically anything where the magazine extends well below the grip.
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This is good in theory, but doesn't stop people who know about guns to modify them and triggers. You can change it to make them fully auto, nothing really about this that can be done IMO. Only thing would be to restrict magazine size again
Have it be a large fine? These could be found at gun ranges. Hear a burst of fire near auto, have the guy checked. Game Wardens too. Any old Baws out in the woods, have it be another thing they check just like tags, or any of the other things they check.
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How far would you really be willing to go with this line of restriction. Would you be willing to restrict how many cars people could own because of potential car crashes? What about restricting people to drive due to medical conditions such as having past heart disease
Cars and driving are already restricted. Seizure meds, psych meds, pain meds. But the number of weapons will be a new buzzword like "bump stock". A large number of people in this country have never met a "gun guy". 40+ guns shocks them. Doesn't shock me. I know guns become a collection, just like anything else. But 43 guns made a large swathe of people gasp.
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:43 am to cahoots
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I'm taking about everyday people and you guys bring up the lone exception.
More competition shooters out there than you might realize there skippy... Hardly "lone" exception AND what stops someone from applying and obtaining the license? How many rounds of ammo would you consider to be appropriate without a license? Who is going to inspect and enforce this? They coming into my house monthly?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:44 am to Friscodog
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You have never answered the question as to what gun law would have prevented this?? Even deeper background checks would not have caught this guy.
My literal first post in this thread did this. I'm not sure what the number of dead and injured would be but if the rifles he was using held 8 rounds instead of whatever ridiculous number they actually held, but I'm 100% sure fewer people would be dead and wounded.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 9:48 am
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:45 am to Haughton99
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You probably need to re-read the post I was replying too. That guy was arguing that high capacity magazines are a good idea because someone may invade your home with a high capacity rifle and I was simply pointing out the near 0 chance of that ever being the case.
Ok I reread your post and you still compared the chance of using an AR-15 style rifle for self defense to the chance of being a victim of a mass murder. I provided data that there are anywhere from 55,000-350,000 self defense uses of a firearm per year. Lets say 1% of the 55,000 are with a rifle that would be 550 self defense uses.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:46 am to The Maj
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Ummm... he stole a legally owned firearm in that particular case... So, NO a deeper background check would not have prevented it...
He lived with his mother. "Anyone in the home with access to weapons ever been hospitalized or treated for (list conditions).
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:46 am to cahoots
quote:Da fuq?
Sorry, but you shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy enough ammo to hit 600 people. The only time you need that much ammo is if you're a mass murderer.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:47 am to Haughton99
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dead and injured would be
You are right, if he had been limited to 8 rounds per magazine, he might have resorted to using something else and the authorities might still be trying to identify a bunch of people with DNA and dental records... and the death toll might have very well been a lot higher...
The problem is the PERSON, not the tool...
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:48 am to Haughton99
You ARE aware that he had a shitload of guns and likely extra mags to reload, right?
With the kind of preparation this guy had, lower capacity mags would only have caused him to delay 2-3 seconds occasionally to drop the old one out and slap a new one in.
With the kind of preparation this guy had, lower capacity mags would only have caused him to delay 2-3 seconds occasionally to drop the old one out and slap a new one in.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to LSU alum wannabe
quote:I didn't attack him.
The OP asked a question. This guy answered. He may or may not be on YOUR side his answer was bland. Maybe he’s playing devils advocate. He’s immediately attacked. That’s why this board can be a shitshow.
I addressed one of his ideas. The other had no merit on its face. No name calling.
quote:To what?
A. As mentioned. Magazine restriction.
quote:Looking for what? And, since we're talking about it after this shooting, is there some reason you feel it would have caught this guy?
B. Background checks. Deeper background checks.
quote:Honestly, I could get on board with banning these although it would really just be kinda of a touchy feely thing because apparently, you can make your own.
C. Bump Stocks are definitely a new buzz word that’s on the table. Big target on its back.
quote:I don't know enough here to even speak to the subject. I don't know all the mods available.
D. Other modifications to triggers made illegal.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:49 am to cahoots
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Then they can apply for a competition license to get more rounds. I'm taking about everyday people and you guys bring up the lone exception.
I recently got into "recreational competition" shooting. We have 20 or so people that gather once a month to shoot a steel challenge. We need about 300 rounds to finish the course.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to cahoots
quote:Da fuq?
I'm taking about everyday people and you guys bring up the lone exception.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to LSU alum wannabe
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"Anyone in the home with access to weapons ever been hospitalized or treated for (list conditions).
Which then becomes "Anyone in the vicinity of your home ever been hospitalized or treated for (list conditions). Then "Do you know anyone..."
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to Haughton99
quote:The weak as frick line was re: your constitutional assertion "muzzle loaders"
No it's not. There are already valid laws on the books restricting what types of firearms you can legally own.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:50 am to ninthward
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Shooters use hi cap mags all the time in crimes in CA and its a gun free utopia that banned hi cap mags years ago.
I know, thats why that idea is retarded. It just prevents people who aren't going on murdering sprees from having hi capacity. The people going on murdering sprees are going to MURDER PEOPLE, what the hell would they care about a secondary charge of illegal magazine possession?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to cahoots
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cahoots
You are obviously not a gun owner or have been to a gun range.. I regularly shoot 300-500 rounds at a range. When I shoot skeet I normally shoot 100 rounds or more.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to The Maj
quote:They already do this, and its a felony. Saw a moron get busted doing this, this summer, ripped a magazine in an AR and before he could put it on the table an officer asked to look at it. The AR left with the sheriff.
Have it be a large fine? These could be found at gun ranges. Hear a burst of fire near auto, have the guy checked. Game Wardens too. Any old Baws out in the woods, have it be another thing they check just like tags, or any of the other things they check.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to ninthward
quote:Leftists (not the OP) have been building this narrative for decades. Anyone one Roth a gun must be guilty of something. No one needs a gun unless it’s for crime.
So anyone with 1000 rounds is a mass killer by your logic
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to ShortyRob
So the same people that have spent all summer calling Trump a fascist are now wailing for the government to take everyone's gun away.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:51 am to The Maj
quote:thats cool. i have a ton of plastic 30 round mags.
Anything that can accept a metallic cartridge of course....
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to LSU alum wannabe
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He lived with his mother. "Anyone in the home with access to weapons ever been hospitalized or treated for (list conditions).
Yeah, I am sure the left is going to be real hip on requiring someone to release medical information on someone else in order to get where they want to be in gun control... In other words, that isn't going to happen, at ALL...
So, NO the deeper background check would not include that question and what happens if "that" person moves in with you after you purchased the firearm? Do you have to turn it in? Good luck with that one too...
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