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re: Lot of Gun Control Talk from the left...........but what are their actual proposals?

Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
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So the same people that have spent all summer calling Trump a fascist are now wailing for the government to take everyone's gun away.


Boom!
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:52 am to
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Limit sales of high capacity magazine
Why do people continually use vague terms.

Define high capacity.

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Sorry, but you shouldn't be able to walk into a gun store and buy enough ammo to hit 600 people. The only time you need that much ammo is if you're a mass murderer.
What if you buy 50 rounds once a month for 5 years?
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am to
They have no problem imposing intrusive laws against strangers they categorize.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am to
Just going to the rifle range to practice I can burn through 2,000 plus rounds and I'm not a competition shooter.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:53 am to
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Define high capacity.


LSU alum wannabe did

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15. Talking handguns here, but basically anything where the magazine extends well below the grip.


Seems well thought out to me
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
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Its not a lone exception google competition shooting numbers. So anyone with 1000 rounds is a mass killer by your logic.


lol that 600 round idea is pure dumb. 600 is like a normal amount for going to the shooting range recreationally... not even being a competitive shooter.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
What if you buy 50 and dont miss.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
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But possibly helped Sandy Hook, Aurora, Virginia Tech, and Gabby Giffords (can't recall town) shooter.

Sandy hook nope

Aurora nope

Virginia Tech nope

Giffords I don't know

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Pulse Nightclub guy would have passed checks too.
So........a lot of nope
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17137 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
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Haughton99


Are you under the misconception that the 2nd amendment was written for hunting or just personal protection?

It was not. It was written to ensure citizens the right to be armed so as to oppose a tyrannical government. Limiting magazines to 5 rounds (or whatever you think is a good number) goes against that reason for the amendment.

What is needed is more mental health assessments in this country.

I have no problem with showing ID for ammo purchases but that really will not stop someone from getting it. It does not work will all the other things that are illegal but still widely available.

I think you mentioned some type of record being kept regarding ammo purchases. That could me misleading. I have an AR and shoot it regularly. This past weekend I went through 450-500 rounds. Between shooting a few hogs and target practice. That ammo is now gone, but how would the government know that I was not stockpiling it for some nefarious reason?

It all goes back to mental illness. Over the past 25-30 years this country has drastically changed the way it handles these people. Here in Tuscaloosa there used to be Bryce hospital and Partlow, neither of them have but a small number of patients now. The government pushed these people out into society so they would not have to foot the bill. We are all paying for that now.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:54 am to
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I know, thats why that idea is retarded. It just prevents people who aren't going on murdering sprees from having hi capacity. The people going on murdering sprees are going to MURDER PEOPLE, what the hell would they care about a secondary charge of illegal magazine possession?



Is it easier to buy marijuana in Louisiana or Colorado?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27793 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:55 am to
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Which then becomes "Anyone in the vicinity of your home ever been hospitalized or treated for (list conditions). Then "Do you know anyone..."




This could have stopped or impeded the Sandy Hook guy. You are running down a slippery slope in flip flops to make your point though.

Of course that crazy fricker could have broke into a Bass Pro at midnight and driven straight to that school.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
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Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
19296 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:56 am to
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quote:
I'm taking about everyday people and you guys bring up the lone exception.

Da fuq?


Agree with your response of da fug.


Op is using a lone exception as the basis of a nationwide overhaul of the Constitution. So again, Da Fuq?
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:56 am to
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thats cool. i have a ton of plastic 30 round mags.


Good for you but is the bullet casing metal or is it plastic too?
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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Why do people continually use vague terms.

Define high capacity.


I specifically answered this earlier in this thread.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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Have it be a large fine? These could be found at gun ranges. Hear a burst of fire near auto, have the guy checked. Game Wardens too. Any old Baws out in the woods, have it be another thing they check just like tags, or any of the other things they check.

So the government too inept to find and locate illegal aliens is going to locate a significant number of illegally modified guns by putting agents at every gun store, every gun range, and roving about the woods?

Amazing idea.

Our government can’t even seem to find illegals at Home Depot on a Saturday morning.... but I’m sure they’ll get this right.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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Is it easier to buy marijuana in Louisiana or Colorado?

Ok see what you did there, your argument just imploded. It is illegal to buy weed in La correct? Yet, you still can, and probably quicker, without sales tax and a sales receipt.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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I own guns. Bunch of em.
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But the reasons someone needs one that can fire so many times without reloading aren't strong enough to outweigh the danger they pose.
you sound crazy and idiotic.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27793 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:57 am to
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Sandy hook nope

Aurora nope

Virginia Tech nope

Giffords I don't know





Those 4 shooters were absolutely batshit crazy. The Virginia Tech guy may have never received treatment, but the other 3 were psych patients.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:58 am to
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No practical purpose for a high capacity magazine other than inflicting high numbers of casualties in a short amount of time.

I can think of several scenarios where I'd prefer to have a 30 round magazine.

Are they LIKELY scenarios? No.

But, then again, neither is getting shot at a concert by a dude on the 32nd floor.

I'll tell you this. If some radical group that believes in violence comes a marching to my neighborhood and the cops aren't there yet, I'm probably not pulling out my 7 round single stack.

And go ahead. Tell me how that "can't happen". I'll simply point you towards...........the world.
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