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re: Lot of Gun Control Talk from the left...........but what are their actual proposals?

Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:59 am to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 9:59 am to
My wife and I shot more than 100 rounds on Saturday.

In like an hour. LOL.

And we weren't even really going at much of a pace.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27793 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:02 am to
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So the government too inept to find and locate illegal aliens is going to locate a significant number of illegally modified guns by putting agents at every gun store, every gun range, and roving about the woods?


Gun ranges would require an idiot opening up a weapon he did not rent from the range that is at or near full auto. The range would then have to call the police. Or report it and let police see video.

And the woods I explained. They're called game wardens. Would they catch everybody? Of course not. Do they catch everybody now? Nope. I went out to Toledo Bend 3 years ago in a boat. Just to drink beer. I did not have a license to fish. My fishing pole may or may not have come out.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22772 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:03 am to
Its a failed argument that they have no response for, we have been over this too many times unfortunately. Fact is we do not know what happened with this guy. My guess is terrorism thats why the media black out.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:03 am to
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Are you under the misconception that the 2nd amendment was written for hunting or just personal protection?


I've actually done quite a bit of research on this topic on my own and I think I have a pretty good idea of the thinking surrounding the second amendment.

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It was not. It was written to ensure citizens the right to be armed so as to oppose a tyrannical government. Limiting magazines to 5 rounds (or whatever you think is a good number) goes against that reason for the amendment.


I think you are sorta right but say you are 100% right. A high capacity magazine is going to do jack shite against a gov't force that has tanks and Apache helicopters.

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What is needed is more mental health assessments in this country.



Mental health treatment is this country is terrible because most people don't want to acknowledge most mental health issues as diseases just like cancer, diabetes, etc. but that's a discussion for another thread.

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I think you mentioned some type of record being kept regarding ammo purchases.


Nope, I've made one specific proposal and am generally opposed to most other proposals on 2nd amendment grounds. The people attacking me in this thread are to close minded to see that I 95% agree with them on gun control issues.

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It all goes back to mental illness. Over the past 25-30 years this country has drastically changed the way it handles these people. Here in Tuscaloosa there used to be Bryce hospital and Partlow, neither of them have but a small number of patients now. The government pushed these people out into society so they would not have to foot the bill. We are all paying for that now.


Completely agree.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:04 am to
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Good for you but is the bullet casing metal or is it plastic too?
so a 1 round mag is high capacity? you kook.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:04 am to
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near full auto


What the hell is "near full auto".

If I take my semi-auto AR-15 and shoot it as fast as I can pull the trigger. Is that "near full auto"?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:05 am to
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Those 4 shooters were absolutely batshit crazy.


Well. The background check in SH wouldn't have been on the shooter.

For Aurora, the shooters weren't using their weapons.

I would probably be fine preventing the VT shooter from having acquired a weapon.

See.

Common ground!

Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:06 am to
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I specifically answered this earlier in this thread.

Dude. I admit. I missed some of the thread and came back an hour or so later.

Did you define it in terms of numbers?
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27793 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:06 am to
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So, NO the deeper background check would not include that question and what happens if "that" person moves in with you after you purchased the firearm? Do you have to turn it in? Good luck with that one too...


The person would need the understanding that they would be held responsible for actions of that person if their guns were stolen. Lanza'S mom felt pretty fricking responsible for her mistake. Right up until he blew her head off.
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:06 am to
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so a 1 round mag is high capacity? you kook.


Not for me but it is for "them"... Think not, semi-auto is illegal in all forms in most of Europe... Kinda my point...
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:07 am to
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Gun ranges would require an idiot opening up a weapon he did not rent from the range
Sonillegal search. Got it.

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The range would then have to call the police. Or report it and let police see video.
What makes you that that wouldnt happen now?

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And the woods I explained. They're called game wardens. Would they catch everybody? Of course not. Do they catch everybody now? Nope.
Huh? They don’t even come close. Anyone motivated can easily evade them. You ever try to find someone a mile assay in the woods because you “hear some shooting”? Good grief. Have you ever been in the woods, at all?

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I went out to Toledo Bend 3 years ago in a boat. Just to drink beer. I did not have a license to fish. My fishing pole may or may not have come out.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
15076 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:07 am to
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Lanza'S mom felt pretty fricking responsible for her mistake


Oh you talked to her?
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
6537 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:07 am to
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I know, thats why that idea is retarded. It just prevents people who aren't going on murdering sprees from having hi capacity. The people going on murdering sprees are going to MURDER PEOPLE, what the hell would they care about a secondary charge of illegal magazine possession?


Is it easier to buy marijuana in Louisiana or Colorado?



I'll bite, its obviously Colorado. What on Earth does that have to do with the topic at hand? Is it because I said "hi capacity"?
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6128 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:07 am to
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Did you define it in terms of numbers?




Yes. I went by the prevailing legal standard definition with is anything over 10 rounds.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:08 am to
I should emphasize that I am not opposed to ALL ideas on guns.

Yeah. I'm likely opposed to the vast majority.

But, it's not some default position.

Sell your ideas.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27793 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:08 am to
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you sound crazy and idiotic.



That's why people spit in your hamburger, Ramrod.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:08 am to
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Are you under the misconception that the 2nd amendment was written for hunting or just personal protection?


I've actually done quite a bit of research on this topic on my own and I think I have a pretty good idea of the thinking surrounding the second amendment.

and?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63498 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:09 am to
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A high capacity magazine is going to do jack shite against a gov't force that has tanks and Apache helicopters.
ask the Iraqis and afghans.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:10 am to
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Yes. I went by the prevailing legal standard definition with is anything over 10 rounds.
Oh yeah. I thought I answered that one.

I kinda like having my 30 round mags. I can absolutely think of a potential use for it although I hope to never have to use it.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 10:10 am
Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 10/4/17 at 10:10 am to
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Lanza'S mom felt pretty fricking responsible for her mistake.


Did you see her in an interview after the shooting?
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