re: Let’s address this mail in voting Fraud scare a lot of you are suggesting could.

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just how many postmen are woke enough to not only risk their employment, but also their freedom?

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You must not be familiar with how these unions work.

The postmen could just say the ballots were misplaced or never received and their union lawyers will go to bat for them 100% of the time and shoot down any criticism of them as “extorting the working man.”

They’re fully-protected to do an intentionally shitty job.

You guys are misunderstanding the scheme. It's not about real people receiving ballots and voting twice--once by mail and once in person.

It's about voter rolls. If you haven't been paying attention, there are dozens of lawsuits all over the country trying to purge voter rolls for people who are dead or have moved from the state. The Democrats are fighting every one of these lawsuits. Ask yourself why?

They know exactly who these people are and how to harvest their ballots. So you may have Joe Smith who moved from North Carolina to Florida 10 years ago. But he is still on North Carolina's voter rolls. So now Joe Smith votes in Florida and someone harvests his ballot in North Carolina and submits that one too.

There is absolutely no system in place to check whether someone has voted in another state or if a dead person votes by mail. These are hundreds of thousands of votes across the country.

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How in the world could anyone suggest he(Biden) would get 100%( or such a large percentage more) of the mail in voters. That laughable, absurd, and well just plain stupid.

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i dont think you understand the fraud aspect of it....its the fact they democrats will have loads of already filled ballets for biden ready to be counted once they see Trumps final numbers....this is the fraud we are talking about

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It's a net benefit for Trump - the olds are more motivated to vote and know how to remotely. The youngs barely know what an envelope is.

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Hell most young people would probably photograph it with their phone and try to text it.

Look, the concern for me about large scale vote-by-mail isn’t even that cheating will occur. It’s that, with almost 100% certainty, the losing side will use it as a flashpoint to claim that cheating occurred.


Let’s flash forward to the election; put yourself in the american people’s shoes. Let’s say there’s an even moderately close election. What we know, with absolute 100% certainty, is that a lot of people in American procrastinate. And that means that a lot of mail in ballots will be put in the mail literally the day of the election. So they’ll be rolling into polling stations after Election Day. Now assume that 30% of the country votes by mail. Some votes get lost, others delivered to the wrong addresses, and others just simply returned to sender. Not for any even mildly nefarious purpose mind you, but just because processing tens of millions of pieces of mail will inevitably lead to some errors (as we’ve long known is the status quo for our postal system). And when that happens, every documented instance of a mailing failure will be flooded into social media like the tide of a megatsunami.

Do you really think, with this reality in the backdrop, that there is any chance that the supporters of the losing side simply shrug their shoulders and say, “oh well, that’s democracy”? Is there any chance that the losing side of a close election where 30% of votes are calculated by mail will accept the results of that election?

Absolutely, 100% not. If trump looses, the response will be, “local postal workers are hiding ballots” and isolated cases where mail got lost will be selectively pushed to support the narrative. If biden loses, the response will be, Trump’s postmaster general rigged the election” and isolated cases where vote sitting machines were phased out will be selectively pushed to support the narrative. Hell, if we’ve got a nail biter that still has not been conclusively decided a full week after the election, you can be absolutely, 100% certain that BOTH sides, simultaneously, will be accusing the other side of cheating. And anyone disputing that fundamental reality either has their head 10 feet under sand, or they’re just be willfully blind for the sake of promoting a predetermined narrative.



Long story short, this issue is almost certainly going to be a major flashpoint for any election result that isn’t a complete annihilation one direction or another. So wanting to discourage people from voting by mail in order to minimize the inevitable fallout seems like a perfectly rational strategy to me.

Are you stupid? We’ve regularly had precincts with over 100% reporting in elections and those votes are counted. We’ve seen local elections overturned in mail in votes.

They don’t care about appearances anymore. They’ve already tried to jail and impeach Trump and you think they are going to hold back if given the opportunity to steal this election?

Don't forget what happened in SoCal congressional districts where Republicans were declared winners on election night, only to be overturned by ballot harvesting.

You lie way too much.

Some can absolutely vote twice.

There is no need to lie.

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However, it’s easy to be registered in more than place. Many people are registered in more than one state. When you move and register to vote, you’re supposed to give the address or county where you were previously registered. That notification, in turn, is supposed to trigger a cancellation of your former registration. But not every state bothers to report the new registrations. A lot of this happens because the Constitution give the power to oversee elections to the states. There is no central database of registered voters.

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Depends on the rules and where you do it. In Louisiana it may be a waste of time but on MN, OH, PA MI if the rules are that it has to be on Election Day, I can see lots of fraud. Mail a ballot on Monday and vote on Tuesday.....chaos insues, you know, unintended consequences. It will be the clusterfrick of clusterfricks. People will get hurt and there will be violence. There will be blood.

I guarantee it. A clusterfrick on a scale that we have never seem in this country sice 1860 - 1865.