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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:03 pm to
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:03 pm to
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Is Zack Newman’s response discordant for anyone else?


The response was prescripted imo. Prescripted to indicate Dolloff’s intervention saved the Producer from being killed or suffering grave bodily harm. But as the remark by the LEO indicated, the prepared script did not match what precipitated the killing.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:04 pm to
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Man, I'm learning all kinds of stuff about my Nikon in this thread.
That shadow detail and durability make up for it.though!
I will not badmouth Nikon. They make a good product.

But I love my Pentax gear because they have been so good about backwards compatibility. I am still using a GREAT 50mm prime that I bought almost 30 years ago, before anyone had even conceived the DSLR. It still works wonderfully with my newest DSLR body.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:07 pm to
That's a tough story to sell considering they'd been following around a loud mouthed aggressive, agitating mother fricker all day (BGM shirt guy). After seeing this a-hole in action, I'm not sure how anything Keltner did could have been legitimately considered life threatening.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Member since May 2020
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:08 pm to
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He took exception to the obvious photo setup. As he approached, he said "This is no place for a f**king camera."




Dang. He could have been no more mistaken. How tragically ironic that the abundance of video/still images offers the most incriminating evidence against his killer.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:10 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:14 pm to
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Or he can hire Hank and he'll be found guilty after months of pointless pontificating and insulting the jury's intelligence.


This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:17 pm
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:14 pm to
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But I love my Pentax gear because they have been so good about backwards compatibility. I am still using a GREAT 50mm prime that I bought almost 30 years ago, before anyone had even conceived the DSLR. It still works wonderfully with my newest DSLR body.
As usual you have no idea what you’re talking about. Nikon’s SLR lens mount dates back to to the late 50s. 100% backward compatible provided you know how to use a focus ring.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:15 pm
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6666 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:28 pm to
Few things, no real contribution:

1. I live in a Denver suburb, but have had the best info from this thread. Thank you.

2. This is so fricked up for countless reasons. Scary for this nation in general

3. It's amazing what people want to see from the same evidence.

Just shite like this on social:

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It's textbook self defense, and textbook use of force. I understand moral arguments (I don't agree with them) but legally, this guy followed all the rules.

If this was a cop shooting a black guy they'd be howling justification.


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the activation of the spray was miliseconds before trigger pull. There is a photo frame where gun is out of battery, with ejected shell. the frame BEFORE that, has spray visible. Likely too fast for human brain to parse, but still technically sprayed first.

it just crushes that narrative that Lee was spraying to defend himself. Which doesn't matter to me, he already assaulted and bumped the guy whom he outweighed by 100lbs.


Blows my mind.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:30 pm to
They have no concept that there is an entire process of drawing and raising a weapon that occurred prior to engagement of the spray. They want Lee to just stand there and accept his execution like he deserves for being a conservative.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 2:33 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
139071 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:31 pm to
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provided you know how to use a focus ring.

Right. No autofocus, but the lenses are compatible.
Posted by roadGator
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Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:33 pm to
People will see what they want. Can’t help that most of the time.

To think that shooting a man from that distance while he was backing up and while you should be moving the person you are supposed to be protecting to safety is self defense is insane.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:56 pm to
Twitter video from @benkile_ showing Newman and Dolloff stalking Keltner at a crosswalk (GoPro - no audio)

You have this one up as a gif on the OP Bobby. But it does not show the light turn green and how they hovered around when Keltner does not cross. This one shows them hesitating, circling and mirroring his moves when he does not move forward on the green.

Also, @benkile_ has a lot of specific footage of Lee Keltner that he has locked down and will not release. Also interesting that he is focused on Lee Keltner as well (who had told him earlier not to film him).
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:57 pm to
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As usual you have no idea what you’re talking about. Nikon’s SLR lens mount dates back to to the late 50s. 100% backward compatible provided you know how to use a focus ring.
Yes, TA, the mount is the same. I was talking about AF and AE compatibility.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:58 pm to
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As usual you have no idea what you’re talking about.
Been out of the thread for hours working and knew exactly who this was referring to the minute I dropped in...
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:59 pm to
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They have no concept that there is an entire process of drawing and raising a weapon that occurred prior to engagement of the spray. They want Lee to just stand there and accept his execution like he deserves for being a conservative.
I have no doubt that some people think this.

At the same time, I think you understand that my analysis is quite different.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 2:59 pm to
Yeah, I’m not grouping you in with those others
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 3:06 pm to
I see nothing but some still photos of Keltner, Dollof and the reporter at a crosswalk. Is that supposed to be a video?
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 3:08 pm to
@benkile_ has blocked him from using it.

ETA: The moment you point out flaws in his "work"

You’re unable to view this Tweet because this account owner limits who can view their Tweets.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 3:19 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 3:12 pm to
Is there a map or overhead drawing or something that shows where the various events occurred? Where was the shooting? Where was the rally in comparison? Where was the street in this last set of images? Etcetera?

It might provide some useful context.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 3:27 pm to


To the extent that anyone else finds such things helpful, the rally was in Civic Center Park. Per Dolloff's arrest affidavit, the "designated egress" from the rally was due south, across 14th and between the Library and the Museum.

BGM Guy had set up shop between the Museum and the Libary, because parking was further south and he could accost people walking back to their vehicles. Like the Keltners.

The photos at the crosswalk were south of the Park, just outside the Park and before crossing 14th street southwbound. The shooting was further south, between the museum and the library. Apparently, the Keltners proceeded due south from 14th street, between the Library and Museum and were then accosted by BGM.

The arrows are from an unrelated event. Just the clearest area map I could find quickly.
This post was edited on 10/14/20 at 3:53 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/14/20 at 3:37 pm to
The rally was over Hank. They had crossed West 14th Avenue and were walking south within the Denver Art Museum complex back to either where they were parked (more than likely along Bancock Street or West 13th Avenue) or some form of public transportation.

Place their agitator in front (he had already gotten into a confrontation with the man in the red shirt) to stop forward progress. They had someone they had identified with a weapon who had earlier told @benkile_ not to film him.

This was their last chance. And they used it to the fullest.
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