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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:49 am to
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
13813 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:49 am to
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What does this have to do w the shooting?



Good question. I've seen him brought up in this thread and another thread like his actions had something to do with the shooting. His actions are unrelated to the shooting itself.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31599 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:51 am to
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Dolloff was not assaulted he put his hands on the victim first.

That's right. If he wanted to protect his client, he should have grabbed the client, and drug his arse away from there. That would be the proper way to handle that.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:52 am to
Dolloff also pulls his weapon before the victim raises a hand or raises the can of spray.
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31599 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 9:56 am to
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Dolloff also pulls his weapon before the victim raises a hand or raises the can of spray.

I truly believe, that Dolloff woke that morning, wanting to kill a conservative. Just looking for an excuse, where he thought he could get away with it.
Posted by bod312
Member since Jul 2015
846 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:01 am to
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I truly believe, that Dolloff woke that morning, wanting to kill a conservative. Just looking for an excuse, where he thought he could get away with it.


Hank has said he doesn't believe he was trying to collect a pelt. My question is what if this was a KKK member who shot a black person at a BLM protest? It would be widely accepted that the KKK member was trying to collect a pelt. Whether you can actually prove that or not might be a different story but it is interesting how certain terrorist groups get a pass.

ETA: my bad it is just an idea
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 10:03 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65584 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:09 am to
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I have trouble seeing "placing hands on chest to prevent a fight" falling into any of those three provisions.

That's because you only posted some of teh statutes.
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to prevent a fight
And apparently, you're a mind reader as well. Let me help you.

quote:

Menacing

Menacing occurs when a person, by threat or physical action, knowingly places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury. Menacing is a Class 3 misdemeanor, but it is a Class 5 felony if it involves the use or threatened use of a deadly weapon. This includes items designed to look like and displayed as deadly weapons (replica guns, rubber knives), in addition to verbal or physical representations that the one is armed with a deadly weapon.

(Colo. Rev. Stat. § 18-3-206.)
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:13 am to
Its irrelevant what the shooter was trying to do or what his intentions were. The fact remains the shooter placed his hands on the victim first and pulled his weapon because he was slapped.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:23 am to
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This sequence is not even remotely in controversy
Every bit of it is in controversy to anyone who has a modicum of common sense and is not trying to make the victim the aggressor.

The victim was set up for a media opportunity. From start to finish. And was murdered in the process.

And you are twisting and distorting the facts to defend it.

Absolutely sickening.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:26 am to
it is odd he has been trying to paint the victim as the aggressor since day 1
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:30 am to
Or, he should have at minimum, clearly identified himself as a security agent via dress, badge, or declaration rather than dressing up as an Antifa, acting like an Antifa, and hanging out with Antifa agitators all day long.

This isnt all that different from the JoJo pedo midget story. Libs mourned his passing until it was revealed that he was a human piece of shite who had been starting fires and begging to get his arse whipped all day. Then the sympathy vanished like a fart in the wind.
Posted by AgentUtah
Member since Jul 2011
1798 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:30 am to
Boo
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:33 am to
While simultaneously painting the board as bias Neanderthals
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:42 am to
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Hank has said he doesn't believe he was trying to collect a pelt. My question is what if this was a KKK member who shot a black person at a BLM protest?
I have no doubt that many on the Far Left (and amongst the SJWs) would argue exactly as you anticipate.

My position would be identical to my position in this case, given the same level of information.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
3268 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:42 am to
If this thing goes to a jury, does it have to be unanimous to convict?



Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:46 am to
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to prevent a fight
And apparently, you're a mind reader as well.
No. Just a reasonable human being. When I see someone place his body between two people who seem to be about to engage in an altercation, I tend to think that he is trying to prevent the altercation. You are free to believe otherwise.
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Menacing

Menacing occurs when a person, by threat or physical action, knowingly places or attempts to place another person in fear of imminent serious bodily injury. Menacing is a Class 3 misdemeanor, but it is a Class 5 felony if it involves the use or threatened use of a deadly weapon. This includes items designed to look like and displayed as deadly weapons (replica guns, rubber knives), in addition to verbal or physical representations that the one is armed with a deadly weapon. (Colo. Rev. Stat. § 18-3-206.)
A smaller guy, with no visible weapon, places himself between two potential combatants (one of whom is much larger than him), and you see that as "menacing." OK
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
Tampa
Member since Jan 2019
1645 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:49 am to
This happened 3 blocks from my place, this is the last straw. I am putting my place on the market and getting the frick out of dodge.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:49 am to
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This sequence is not even remotely in controversy
Every bit of it is in controversy to anyone who has a modicum of common sense.
Of the items that I outlined, which do you dispute?
quote:

The victim was set up for a media opportunity. From start to finish.
That MIGHT be true and it might not. Either way, it does not alter the simple sequence of events that I outlined as occurring during the 4-5 second confrontation that led to the shooting.
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And you are twisting and distorting the facts to defend it.
I am not "defending" anything. I am objectively analyzing the limited facts available to us at this time.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:50 am to
Don’t vote Democrat wherever you end up unless you want to be moving again in 10 years.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:50 am to
Absolutely sickening.

But typical
Posted by ColoradoTiger1987
Tampa
Member since Jan 2019
1645 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 10:51 am to
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Don’t vote Democrat wherever you end up unless you want to be moving again in 10 years.


I am Pro-Trump.

ETA: I am Pro whoever decides to uphold law and order. The BLM marches have calmed down since summer but there were nights where these idiots were marching at midnight. Called the non-emergency police and they literally told me to write our state legislature
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 10:55 am
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