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re: Left-Wing News Hired Hitman Charged W/ 2nd Degree Murder Of Patriot

Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:12 am to
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
90070 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:12 am to
quote:

Dolloff has no charge. He is not a licensed or bonded security guard under Colorado law.

Your argument is rendered moot from that point forward.



right, and if he were licensed and bonded he would still be in deep doodoo because he did everything wrong for someone who is there as "security" to protect his "client"
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:13 am to
Speaking of Standard American English, can you please interpret this statute for me, counsel?

quote:

Deadly physical force may be used only if a person reasonably believes a lesser
degree of force is
inadequate and:
(a.) The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he
or another person is in
imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury; or
(b.) The other person is using or reasonably appears about to use physical
force against an
occupant of a dwelling or business establishment while committing or
attempting to commit
burglary as defined in sections 18-4-202 to 18-4-204; or
(c.) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit
kidnapping believes a lesser
degree of force is
inadequate and:
(a.) The actor has reasonable ground to believe, and does believe, that he
or another person is in
imminent danger of being killed or of receiving great bodily injury; or
(b.) The other person is using or reasonably appears about to use physical
force against an
occupant of a dwelling or business establishment while committing or
attempting to commit
burglary as defined in sections 18-4-202 to 18-4-204; or
(c.) The other person is committing or reasonably appears about to commit
kidnapping

This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 11:14 am
Posted by auggie
Opelika, Alabama
Member since Aug 2013
31599 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:14 am to
quote:

He is not a licensed or bonded security guard under Colorado law.

Maybe he "identifies" as a security guard.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:16 am to
We still don’t have the name of the subcontractor that Pinkerton didn’t use when 9News didn’t hire them.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:17 am to
quote:

quote:

Dolloff thinks he is defending his charge, by stepping into Keltner's path. Keltner thinks he is protecting himself from Dolloff by hitting Dolloff. Dolloff thinks he is defending himself Keltner by unholstering his weapon. Keltner thinks he is defending himself from Dolloff by aiming and deploying his gas. Dolloff thinks he is defending himself from Keltner by discharging his weapon.
you know what others think.
I specifically said that those were my opinions.

I see those as reasonable interpretations of the available facts. You disagree, apparently believing that Dolloff set out that morning to "kill hisself some Nazis" or some such nonsense.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:19 am to
quote:

Dolloff has no charge. He is not a licensed or bonded security guard under Colorado law.

Your argument is rendered moot from that point forward.
You cannot de facto defend someone, simply because you do not hold a license to do so de jure?

OK
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:20 am to
You mean 9news hasn’t leaked their Pinkerton contract yet?
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:20 am to
quote:

We still don’t have the name of the subcontractor that Pinkerton didn’t use when 9News didn’t hire them.

I cannot even laugh about this farce anymore. A father and grandfather is dead today and no one is going to do anything. He went solely to show support for law enforcement, was baited into an altercation by a professional instigator from the Left (who had already attempted three times earlier) and he managed to disengage only to be shot seconds later by Leftist "security guard" all for a carefully scripted photo opportunity. And Hank says "Such is life."

I cannot even post what I am thinking right now. A very dark place.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:21 am to
quote:

You cannot de facto defend someone, simply because you do not hold a license to do so de jure?

OK
Then if is this case it is absolutely murder under CO law.
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:23 am to
NO AFFIRMATIVE MALICE!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:23 am to
quote:

You disagree, apparently believing that Dolloff set out that morning to "kill hisself some Nazis" or some such nonsense.


Why would that be out of character for Dolloff?

Why would you give him the benefit of the doubt, especially after seeing his insane Social Media posts?

What special insight do you claim to have that makes you think that it isn't possible?

His posts indicate a pretty unstable mind at work.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

You cannot de facto defend someone, simply because you do not hold a license to do so de jure?


You can. But there’s no immediate danger to the news producer which would warrant Dolloff killing Keltner. There’s no immediate danger to Dolloff that would warrant Dolloff killing Keltner.

So what’s your next stupid argument?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

apparently believing that Dolloff set out that morning to "kill hisself some Nazis"


Incorrect. Not even close.

Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:24 am to
quote:

I cannot even post what I am thinking right now.


You don't have to, we have a mind reader on this thread.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Hank says "Such is life."
Until this incident, I had never seen you as being governed by emotion to the exclusion of objectivity. For some reason, you are emotionally-invested in this case. Perhaps you are a grandfather and empathize for that reason.

I said "such is life" about the fact that two people can interpret the facts differently, NOT about Keltner's death.

His death is the tragic result of a series of bad decisions by both him and Dolloff.

Sometimes people die, when neither actor was evil.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:25 am to
quote:

You mean 9news hasn’t leaked their Pinkerton contract yet?


There’s no contract. Why Pinkerton is playing along is beyond me.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
127401 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:25 am to
There was no defending. There was only instigating. Multiple times over. And you are too willfully obtuse to concede.

Congrats. His blood is on your hands as well.

Such is life you bastard. I hope someone shows you some non-affirmative malice one day as well.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
128852 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:25 am to
quote:

Sometimes people die, when neither actor was evil.


And in this case, Dolloff was evil.
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
22775 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:26 am to
What blows my mind still is the last three people victim had contact with before his death all knew each other. Again how does that happen?
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
158011 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 11:28 am to
The Pinkerton lawyers, if there is no contract, must be doing once last CYA with all involved there just to make sure.

If there is no contract, they have to drop that hammer back on the news channel ASAP.

Your baby, you rock it.
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