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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:06 am to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:06 am to
That’s how larger wars get started, but Russia is desperate. They can’t give up and they can’t quickly win.

If NK troops invade Ukraine what will the Europeans do?

For instance would the Poles send troops to Ukraine?
Posted by T1gerNate
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:28 am to
Posted by LARancher1991
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:31 am to
I don't think any country in Europe will do anything. NK troops have been part of this war in the past mostly in defensing the kursk region but I don't think them actually moving into Ukraine would trigger any type of European response.

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If this didn't trigger a European response I don't think much will.
This post was edited on 8/6/26 at 9:34 am
Posted by SparkyWilson
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:34 am to
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That’s how larger wars get started, but Russia is desperate. They can’t give up and they can’t quickly win.

If NK troops invade Ukraine what will the Europeans do?

For instance would the Poles send troops to Ukraine?


North Korea is willing trade lives for technological, political, and economic gain (hopefully). What a world.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 9:35 am to
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don't think any country in Europe will do anything. NK troops have been part of this war in the past mostly in defensing the kursk region but I don't think them actually moving into Ukraine would trigger any type of European response.


You could very well be right. The nations could just let the Comminists back into Europe. In fact I’d guess that they wouldn’t do anything, but if anyone reacted with foot soldiers I think it would be Poland.

Now others might ratchet up aid.
Posted by VolSquatch
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 11:44 am to
That's not a trend you like to see.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 1:50 pm to
From December 2025. At this pace they should control all of the town by the end of 2026

Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 3:20 pm to
If you compare the two Rybar maps Nate posted of the Kostyantynivka area, I can see some Russian advances northwest of Illinivka. One was early July the other today. There is nothing of note that I can see on the main highway to Kramatorsk.

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Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 4:32 pm to
According to the scale on the ISW map, it appears Russia has advanced about 5km since December 10th of 2025. Let's call it 6km just to be fair.

In 8 months, Russia has advanced 6km in this area.

That works out to 750 meters per month, which equates to about 25 meters per day.

The distance from the outer edge of Kostyantynivka to the outskirts of Kramatorsk is 16km according to Google Earth Pro. At a pace of 25m per day, it will take Russia 640 days to reach Kramatorsk.

The real question that no map answers is what the cost was to both Ukraine and Russia for the 25 m per day advance through Kostyantynivka.
Posted by Mr Happy
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:27 pm to
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North Korea is willing trade lives for technological, political, and economic gain (hopefully). What a world.

US history indicates that we have done the same.
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:53 pm to
I looked at the Rybar maps of the same area but a month apart. There was very little changes to note certainly no movement up the main Highway.
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 6:59 pm to
quote:

If NK troops invade Ukraine what will the Europeans do?

For instance would the Poles send troops to Ukraine?


The NK's sending troops to the Ukraine will result in simply more of the same.

1. The Russian infantry sucks, so the NK's will suck even more. Any 'training' the NK's receive will be entirely based on the Russian command's desire to survive by throwing someone, anyone not themselves, into the grinder and not necessarily taking more land, so all we will see is more casualties, not a change in returns for the Russians. In fact I'm willing to be bet that it won't stop the Ukrainians from continuing to tack back parts fo their land, albeit still at a slow rate.

2. Europe will double down on backing the Ukrainians and helping them to develop their drone warfare capabilities, along with the South Koreans. They won't send troops, however, because they won't need to and because escalating it may only help the Russians.

3. The first thing the Ukrainians are going to target is the logistics trail from NK, and since all of Russia's logistics are built around rail it's going to be shooting ducks in a barrel. I'm not sure how well they are going to fare shipping NK troops across a continent cris-crossed by railways and I suspect the NK's will lose quite a few troops on their way to the front, something the Russian's already have a problem with.

So the NK's sending troops will only prolong the situation and lead to more pointless deaths.
Posted by Leopold
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 7:11 pm to
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US history indicates that we have done the same.


Not after WWII - that was the whole point of NATO. The European countries were to be the frontlines in the containment of the USSR and in exchange we gave them money, technology and political support. It's actually working like a charm right now only too many people can't see that and only view it in terms of a business deal, something it never was.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:44 pm to
Have they determined who the courier was that brought the bomb? Were they an unknowing innocent or was it a suicide bomber?

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Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/6/26 at 8:47 pm to
I only read that it was a woman.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:18 am to
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Have they determined who the courier was that brought the bomb?
No news on the perpetrators yet but it does seem that a second general was killed -
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According to one version, the two graves at Troyekurovskoye were intended for high-ranking servicemen who died in an explosion at the anniversary celebration of VKS Commander-in-Chief Chayko. Yesterday, a general was buried in one of the graves. Presumably, this could be 53-year-old Ministry of Defense General Igor Yerusalimov, whose farewell ceremony took place on August 4.
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VChK-OGPU and Rucriminal.info has learned who was buried yesterday and today at Troyekurovskoye Cemetery. Yesterday was the funeral of Major General Valery Plokhotnyuk. As of 2022, he served as the deputy commander of the 49th Army.

Today, Daniil Peredriy—the son-in-law of the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Aerospace Forces, Alexander Chayko—was buried. Both were killed on August 1 in an explosion near a restaurant where they were celebrating Chayko's 55th birthday.

Earlier, VChK-OGPU and Rucriminal.info found out that the bomb carried by the girl, who was used as a suicide bomber, detonated when a car with flashing lights pulled up to the restaurant's veranda. Most likely, Plokhotnyuk had just arrived at his friend's birthday celebration at that moment.
Right now, the only news coming out of Moscow is from the funeral watchers.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 2:58 am
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:31 am to
WB of the Day - hit at daylight about three hours ago.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:09 am to
Interesting development with Federov. He gave this interview, streamed live this morning, about his communication with Elon Musk - which seems to be an ongoing process.

It's clear now that if one person can stop this war, it's Musk. Certainly not Trump.

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Full You Tube (1hr 40min) with English subtitles here.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 4:18 am to
Another interview, this time of retired US Army Col. Robert Hamilton, on the anti-ballistic missile issue in Ukraine. It seems there is another source, refitted S-300 missiles that may become available this year. Although questionable from a quality and quantity standpoint, this is an added resource.
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So there are a couple of initiatives under way that won't produce interceptor missiles immediately, but over time, months and years, they will help fill this Patriot gap.

There's a joint U.S.-Ukrainian effort going on to essentially retrofit or upgrade the old S-300 missiles or a newer variant of the S-300 and give it better capabilities. And so that should come online near the end of this year. But, again, we're talking 100 or a couple of hundred a year that could be produced.
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Ukraine and the U.S. are jointly working to modernize older S-300 missiles or develop a newer variant with improved capabilities, retired U.S. Army Col. Robert Hamilton told PBS. He said the updated system is expected to become operational near the end of 2026 and could support production of 100 to a couple hundred interceptor missiles per year. In 2024, then-U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said the two countries were also developing a replacement for the S-300.
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