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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:06 am to
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:06 am to
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WB of the Day - hit at daylight about three hours ago.


Unfortunately, it appears that the fires were contained and the damage was minor.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:58 am to
Ukrainian air defence intercepted only 29 out of 195 Russian ballistic missiles in July

Iryna Levytska — 7 August, 12:58

Ukraine's air defence forces intercepted 29 out of the 195 ballistic missiles Russia launched against Ukraine in July, and a further 40 failed to reach their targets.

Source: Ministry of Defence of Ukraine

Details: According to the Ministry of Defence, the ballistic missiles used by Russia included Iskander, 48N6DM, KN-23, Tsirkon and other types.

Quote: "In July, Ukraine's air defence operated under conditions of a critical shortage of interceptor missiles to counter ballistic terror."

Details: In addition, Russia used 265 Kalibr, Iskander-K, Kh-101 and other types of cruise missiles in July, of which air defence forces intercepted 187.

As for attack drones, 8,653 were detected, and Ukrainian air defence shot down 5,143 Russian drones. Among the types used were Shahed, Gerbera and Italmas drones.

According to Ukraine's Air Force, Russian forces used over 9,000 strike drones and missiles during aerial attacks in July (not including reconnaissance drones).

Meanwhile, the Ministry of Defence noted that Ukraine's air defence intercepted over 5,300 drones and missiles last month while repelling massive Russian attacks.

The ministry said the count includes the results of work by aircraft, anti-aircraft missile forces, electronic warfare and unmanned systems units, and mobile fire groups of Ukraine's defence forces during the repelling of attacks.

Ukrainska Pravda
Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 7:17 am to
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Translation:

Are Ballistic Missiles Running Out for the RF?

Today I was asked a question that genuinely surprised me, namely – are Russia's ballistic missiles "Iskander" running out, and where will they find a replacement for them?

The question sounded pretty strange, because, first of all, there are no ballistic missiles called "Iskander" – there is the operational-tactical missile system "Iskander-M/K," and the actual missile is the 9M723. But someone will accuse me of being pedantic and boring. And they'd be right.

Second – what gets produced can't run out. And it's being produced quite actively, I might add. As of today, 9M723 missiles are manufactured at a rate of 3 units of finished product per day. In 2021, 9M723s were produced at a rate of 1 missile per week; today that's 3 missiles per day.

The enemy's use of missiles beyond the 9M723 – such as the 48N6DM, 3M22, P-800, and North Korean KN-23 – speaks to the scaling of terror within the limits of available production capacities for all modifications. But so far, over 7 months of 2026, I haven't once seen monthly strikes exceed monthly production, something I've repeatedly said and written about – the RF plans its current terror against Ukrainian cities with extreme rationality.

I'll put it this way. Even the accumulated stockpile of missiles from 2025 hasn't particularly dwindled, so where these assumptions came from that the RF is running out of something, I haven't the foggiest idea.

Instead of soaking in warm baths of wishful thinking that the enemy's missiles will run out, it's better to prepare for the possibility that, with that approach, there might not even be a warm bath to soak in. The enemy's capabilities should be assessed realistically, as should the methods of countering these threats.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 7:19 am
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:05 am to
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Instead of soaking in warm baths of wishful thinking that the enemy's missiles will run out, it's better to prepare for the possibility that, with that approach, there might not even be a warm bath to soak in. The enemy's capabilities should be assessed realistically, as should the methods of countering these threats.


These are the words of a serious person who understands what is going on.
Posted by CitizenK
BR
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:21 am to
This denotes lack of hydrogen in refining.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 8:23 am to
Russia isn’t running out of missiles. They fire off at a steady rate. They even get extra help from NK.

This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:18 am to
No, even if Ukraine did have enough Patriots, over time that's a losing proposition. Anti-ballistic missiles cannot defend cities against long term attack campaigns. The Russians/Chinese/Norks will always be able to out-produce the AB missiles. There must be counterattacks against Russian missile production, logistics and the launch systems (transporter erector launchers - TELs).

Right now, with Ukraine's strike ability, the TELs are located the closest to the border and are therefore most vulnerable. But as they are mobile, a real time satellite-based communication network is required. That's where Musk comes in.

If I'm in charge, I would be looking at the option of regime change at Starlink. That's how serious this is.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:31 am to
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If I'm in charge, I would be looking at the option of regime change at Starlink. That's how serious this is.


How very Soviet of you.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 11:41 am to
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If I'm in charge, I would be looking at the option of regime change at Starlink. That's how serious this is.


Musk has reportedly said that he will enable Starlink over Russia only if Trump tells him to.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 12:45 pm to
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If I'm in charge, I would be looking at the option of regime change at Starlink. That's how serious this is.


No, you politic to get this; or you go another route.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5194 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 1:32 pm to
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Musk has reportedly said that he will enable Starlink over Russia only if Trump tells him to.
That's the same thing, he knows Trump is compromised and can never agree to this. Musk is just blaming his cowardness on Trump.

Politics has its limits. War is an extension - politics without limits. They tried persuasion. Now they must remove the restraints of politics. With missiles hitting Ukrainian cities every night, they cannot afford to wait. Time for Plan B.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
43033 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Politics has its limits. War is an extension - politics without limits. They tried persuasion. Now they must remove the restraints of politics. With missiles hitting Ukrainian cities every night, they cannot afford to wait. Time for Plan B.


This is nothing new. Ukraine should be on plan B, C or D already.
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
8315 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:42 pm to
Ukraine could always develop and deploy its own star link. Musk and the US owe Ukraine nothing.

I've gotten pretty tired of various Ukrainian commentary complaining about the US not giving them more weapons. We don't owe them jack shite.

It's no secret that I'm pro Ukraine in this; however, I'm more pro US. I've said since 2022 I'm fine with giving/selling stuff to Ukraine as long as it doesn't jeopardize the safety of our soldiers (I have 2 in my family). I haven't changed in that view.

ETA, suggesting getting rid of Musk because you disagree with his position..well FU. Ukraine needs to be kissing Musks arse for all he has done for them.
This post was edited on 8/7/26 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5194 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 2:46 pm to
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This is nothing new. Ukraine should be on plan B, C or D already.
So they've been attempting Plan B, C or D at Starlink already? You missed the point entirely.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5194 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:02 pm to
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It's no secret that I'm pro Ukraine in this; however, I'm more pro US.
There's no difference, can't you see that? The greatest threat to the US since 1945 - the primary reason you have two soldiers in your family - is being beaten and with our help can be destroyed. Without any US lives lost. That would be an infinitely better outcome for the US and the entire world.

Quit making excuses for your blindness. We ARE Ukraine.
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ETA, suggesting getting rid of Musk because you disagree with his position..well FU.
FU? Go running to the Admins again, that really worked the last time.
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Ukraine needs to be kissing Musks arse for all he has done for them.
He alone is the only person in the West that can stop this war. But he refuses to. Enabling Starlink over Russia would bring this war to a fast end and save countless lives. Civilian lives. But Musk refuses to do that.

Why? Because he's a coward. Those bullies at Pretoria Boys High did a permanent number on him. He will never be a full grown man. Time for a change.
Posted by Tigris
Cloud Cuckoo Land
Member since Jul 2005
13220 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:13 pm to
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This denotes lack of hydrogen in refining.


That makes a lot of sense. Steam/methane reformers (huge fire boxes full of red hot catalytic tubes) is one of the best targets in a plant. It doesn't take much of a boom to do a LOT of damage that doesn't get fixed quickly.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
5194 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:17 pm to
After over 140 vessels have been hit in the Azov and Eastern Black Seas, you would think ship owners are satisfying Einstein's definition of insanity by sending more vessels. But ship owners are not that stupid. They do satisfy if not define the term 'greedy' though. Somebody - we know who - is paying them to try to push their hulls into Russian loading ports. And paying them a lot.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:29 pm to
With each oligarch taken down physically as well as financially, the rest see see how little time they have. These people didn't get into their positions of wealth and power by sitting back and doing nothing.

And let's remember - there is no singular, unified FSB. Far from it. It and the other ten official security ministries in Russia are divided into competing groups and they are all working from the same playbook with the same weapons.
quote:

Bloomberg: Many of Russia's elite fear the Federal Security Service is out of control as President Vladimir Putin tasks the agency with maintaining his grip on power amid growing unease over the war in Ukraine.

The FSB has been given free rein to investigate anyone with little or no accountability, and is behind the push to charge billionaire Pavel Durov with terrorism as part of efforts to restrict Telegram.

Russia's elites are increasingly alarmed at the inability of the system to deal with mounting challenges linked to the war, and there's no sign Putin's willing to make concessions, with a repressive atmosphere spreading among both the elites and Russia's middle class.

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Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8675 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:30 pm to
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Ukraine should be on plan B, C or D already.


The side that's supposedly been winning for years should be on their 4th plan?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8675 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:31 pm to
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There's no difference, can't you see that? The greatest threat to the US since 1945 - the primary reason you have two soldiers in your family - is being beaten and with our help can be destroyed. Without any US lives lost. That would be an infinitely better outcome for the US and the entire world.


It's not even the biggest threat to the US right now

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We ARE Ukraine.


Well we know YOU are.
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