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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict.

Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:46 pm to
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There's no difference, can't you see that? The greatest threat to the US since 1945 - the primary reason you have two soldiers in your family - is being beaten and with our help can be destroyed. Without any US lives lost. That would be an infinitely better outcome for the US and the entire world.



Russia isn't close to the top threat to the US. China is a far greater threat.

The Russian military is spent, it has no navy beyond a few subs, its Airforce is impotent, and its army is simply inept and out of the equipment required to wage war against Europe, NATO, or the US. Ukraine is unfortunate to be a next-door neighbor, because Russia lacks the capacity to project power beyond its immediate borders.

No, we are not in any shape or form Ukraine, to say we are, makes you look like an idiot.

I don't know what your talking about with the admins, I have never RA'd you.

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Because he's a coward. Those bullies at Pretoria Boys High did a permanent number on him. He will never be a full grown man. Time for a change.


If the majority Ukrainian view of Musk is reflected in your statement, maybe Musk should turn off Starlink for Ukraine. Talk about a lack of self-awareness.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 3:49 pm to
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The side that's supposedly been winning for years should be on their 4th plan?


I guess you are talking about Russia, right. You have them trending in the lead.

And If you’d be honest, you’d admit both sides have evolved and their plan
/strategies have changed multiple times.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 4:08 pm to
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. You have them trending in the lead


Trending is not indicative of position. A side can be losing and trending in the right direction or vice versa
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Chromdome35
Fast lane, behind a slow driver
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 4:19 pm to
Russia's use of ballistic missiles that Ukraine can't shoot down is doing serious damage to Ukraine and the coming winter will be brutal for Ukraine.

Ukraine needs to accelerate its attacks on Russia's infrastructure and economy. They have to force Russia to the negotiating table as soon as possible. Zelensky said this exact thing earlier this year.

With the frontlines stalemated, this has turned into a war of long range strikes via drone and missile.

Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:16 pm to
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Ukraine needs to accelerate its attacks on Russia's infrastructure and economy.

They can't.
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They have to force Russia to the negotiating table as soon as possible.

They can't.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:27 pm to
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He alone is the only person in the West that can stop this war. But he refuses to. Enabling Starlink over Russia would bring this war to a fast end and save countless lives. Civilian lives. But Musk refuses to do that.

Why? Because he's a coward. Those bullies at Pretoria Boys High did a permanent number on him. He will never be a full grown man. Time for a change.


I can tell you are really Ukranian because only a true blooded Ukrop could be so pig headed, ungrateful, and hostile towards the single person on this planet who has done more for the Ukranian war effort than anyone else.
Posted by GOP_Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 5:50 pm to
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Ukraine needs to accelerate its attacks on Russia's infrastructure and economy.

They can't.


LOL, that's exactly what they're doing. Ukrainian missile tech and production rates will likely exceed Russia's in a year or two.
Posted by T1gerNate
Member since Feb 2020
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:06 pm to
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Ukrainian missile tech and production rates will likely exceed Russia's in a year or two.


Magical thinking
Posted by GOP_Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:26 pm to
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Magical thinking



You obviously haven't kept up with the missiles that Ukraine has already deployed, much less those that they're testing and developing.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8675 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:30 pm to
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LOL, that's exactly what they're doing. Ukrainian missile tech and production rates will likely exceed Russia's in a year or two.


In a year or two the Russian economic damage or Ukriane's manpower issues will be so bad that it won't matter even if that's true.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8675 posts
Posted on 8/7/26 at 6:35 pm to
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I can tell you are really Ukranian because only a true blooded Ukrop could be so pig headed, ungrateful, and hostile towards the single person on this planet who has done more for the Ukranian war effort than anyone else.


It's wild how drastically the tone of Ukranians has shifted in the past two weeks.

From the top down, too.

Russia is taking fortress cities, turning the economic screws, and is about to mobilize, all while Ukriane is out of interceptors.

They've had an awesome poker face in some tough situations previously. They must be very worried.

Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:03 am to
Samara Oblast just north of Tatarstan.

The plant’s crude distillation capacity equals 8.5 mln tons (65.1 mln barrels) per year.
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Just days after a failed restart attempt. Ukraine is specifically targeting Russia refineries as they come back online.

Russia has no choice but to repair them, but the damage gets worse with each attack.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 3:11 am to
Shadow fleet hunting in the Black Sea. Pantsir AA missiles are close but no cigar.
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three guided missiles from a Pantsir-S1 SAM/gun system fired at the Bird in one go, but the shadow fleet tub was hunted down anyway.

+12 vessels from what remains of the shadow fleet were struck by USF Birds in the Black Sea and Sea of Azov during August 1–8 as part of USF Operation “MoLoCHKa.”

Since the launch of USF Operation “MoLoCHKa” (July 6–August 8, 2026), the Birds have successfully struck 218 vessels: 134 in the Sea of Azov and 84 in the Black Sea.

A tub in the Sea of Azov has become an endangered species, while shipping through the Kerch Strait has been blocked indefinitely since July 10 — now for 30 days — until further notice, courtesy of the Freedom-Loving Ukrainian Bird.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:14 am to
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Ukraine has effectively run out of air-defense missiles for at least two weeks. A few missiles remain in air-defense systems in Odesa or Lviv (as evidenced by recent interceptions), but apparently not in Kyiv.

For Ukraine, the solution is not to acquire more anti-aircraft missiles. The solution is to obtain missiles -whether domestically produced or supplied by allies - capable of striking the roughly five crucial sites where Russian missiles, drones, and their key components are manufactured, thereby reducing the number of strikes.

It is also crucial to have the means to track Iskander and S-400 launchers inside Russia (which requires enabling Starlink access in border regions or using other methods) and to acquire air-to-air missiles that would allow F-16s to shoot down some of the aircraft attacking Ukraine.

The solution to the threat of Russian missiles is offensive, not defensive. While Ukraine could attempt to shoot down as many missiles as possible, it is obviously more cost-effective to prevent them from being launched from Russia in the first place.

With winter approaching, this is a priority if Kyiv want to avoid widespread power outages and the disconnection of its nuclear power plants...

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Here are the main production sites:

Votkinsk (north of Tatarstan, west of Perm) (Iskander-M, Kinzhal);

Yelabuga (Tatarstan) (Gerans);

Raduga Design Bureau (Moscow) (Kh-101, 59, 69, 32);

Mashinostroyeniya Rocket Design Bureau (Moscow) (Zircon);

Kremniy El (Bryansk) - destroyed last March with Storm Shadow missiles.

All of these are within drone range right now. Why haven\t they been hit? Well, I have to think the Ukrainians are trying but haven't been able to get through the AA successfully yet. The Liutyis are probably too slow.

Thus the critical need of the FP-5 Flamingo and FP-9 missiles. The FP-5 is in use, the FP-9 is in engine testing but has been fired already. Both have the range to hit Moscow, the FP-5 has the range to hit Votkinsk and Yelabuga.

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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 4:53 am to
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Ukraine's HUR says the Ilsky oil refinery in Krasnodar Krai was hit overnight on August 8 in a deep-strike operation by its Active Actions and Unmanned Systems departments. A fire broke out at the refinery following the strike.

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Posted by CitizenK
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 8:19 am to
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Steam/methane reformers (huge fire boxes full of red hot catalytic tubes) is one of the best targets in a plant. It doesn't take much of a boom to do a LOT of damage that doesn't get fixed quickly.


Naphtha reformers are chrome moly vessels with bed of catalyst ffor upgrading feed into high octane reformate. Hydrogen is a byproduct used to desulfurize incoming heavy naphtha, excess used to desulfurize diesel and if enough to isomerize light naphtha. Interesting that I have seen ONE naphtha reformer which was a furnace full of catalyst packed tubes similar to a SMR. Howe Baker technology in Dominica Republic adjacent to a nickel mine. The little refinery was there for heavy fuel oil for the power plant. The "gasoline" was sold down the mountain for distribution. Everything rusted with trees growing INSIDE the furnace.
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 9:25 am to
Something to watch. Nate ‘s been talking about this too. Can Russia effectively envelop the Fortress Brlt? By the end of the year? ISW

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Key Takeaways

Russian President Vladimir Putin reportedly had a phone call on August 6 with the commander of a Russian Airborne Forces (VDV) division, indicating that Russian forces are prioritizing advances in the Pokrovsk and Dobropillya directions with the intent of encircling Ukraine’s Fortress Belt from the southwest.

The Russian timelines for the completion of this wide envelopment are extremely unrealistic, however.

Putin’s call with the 76th Guards VDV Division commander is likely also a response to emerging accusations that he is out of touch with the battlefield reality in Ukraine.

Ukraine’s intermediate-range strike campaign against the Russian rear, along with Ukrainian tactical drone overmatch on the frontline, are slowing down Russian operational tempo across the frontline.

An improvised explosive device (IED) explosion in central Moscow City on August 1 reportedly killed Russian Major General Valery Plokhotnyuk.

The US Senate passed the Lindsey O. Graham Sanctioning Russia Act of 2026, which imposes 100% tariffs on US imports from the five largest importers of Russian crude oil and natural gas, among other provisions, on August 7.

Russian forces recently advanced in the Novopavlivka and Oleksandrivka directions.

Russia launched 147 drones against Ukraine overnight.

Posted by cypher
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Posted on 8/8/26 at 9:56 am to
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