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Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:59 am to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 11:59 am to
Stolen grain is a totally different legal basis compared to sanctioned oil cargos with a clean manifest origin.


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Posted by Coeur du Tigre
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:02 pm to
Zelensky: "If the phone ain't ringing, it's me."


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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:09 pm to
Posted by LSUPilot07
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:18 pm to
Now be honest. Just how long do you think Europe is going to pay the bill for Ukraine to keep fighting now w that we have done our part and stepped back? A year? 2 maybe? The second some woke Europeans start getting their panties in a twist because they have to pay more for some things so the government can fund a war is when unfortunately Ukraine is fricked which is why I say make deal now. Zelensky knows he’s being unreasonable thinking he will get all his territory back but as long as he has enough fish still hooked on his line he’s going to keep fishing.
Posted by DMAN1968
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:22 pm to
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Bookmarked for January when the Democratic majority in both House and Senate are sworn in.

You will be lucky if this thread is around by then with the way it's been ruined.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:27 pm to
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I'm as serious as a heart attack when I tell you multiple members of this administration are going to have severe legal problems when Trump leaves office.


Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 12:27 pm to
Damn, they changed their tune pretty fast. I guess that excuse about not knowing the cargo was stolen didn't hold up to a reading of the international laws on the liability of freight forwarders. Yeah, it's certainly a FOD charter, but liability transfers with the cargo.

TLDR? Russian liability until discharge. Then it's Israeli liability, with jurisdiction in an international court such as Den Hague. Israeli looters will have no friends there and the legal bills in the Netherlands would exceed the value of this cargo. Easily.


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Posted by cypher
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:01 pm to
Ukraine proposes long-term ceasefire after Putin floats 'Victory Day' truce with Trump

April 30, 2026 12:02 pm

Ukraine is proposing a long-term ceasefire to Russia after Russian President Vladimir Putin suggested a temporary truce for Victory Day celebrations, President Volodymyr Zelensky said on April 30.

The proposal came after Putin held a phone call with U.S. President Donald Trump on April 29, during which the Russian leader expressed readiness to declare a temporary pause in fighting around Russia's May 9 Victory Day commemorations.

Moscow earlier scaled back its planned Victory Day parade — an annual showcase of its projected military strength — amid fears of potential Ukrainian attacks.

"We will clarify what exactly this is about — a few hours of security for a parade in Moscow, or something more," Zelensky said. "Our proposal is a long-term ceasefire, reliable and guaranteed security for people, and a lasting peace."

The Kyiv Independent
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:17 pm to
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:33 pm to
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Now be honest. Just how long do you think Europe is going to pay the bill for Ukraine to keep fighting now w that we have done our part and stepped back? A year? 2 maybe? The second some woke Europeans start getting their panties in a twist because they have to pay more for some things so the government can fund a war is when unfortunately Ukraine is fricked which is why I say make deal now. Zelensky knows he’s being unreasonable thinking he will get all his territory back but as long as he has enough fish still hooked on his line he’s going to keep fishing.

The EU countries will pay the bills for as long as it takes. Absolutely. They've already made that commitment.

Drop the Fox and Friends narrative and concentrate on two things: money and political will. As an example, Germany, the land of pacifists and stacked anti-defense spending laws, just announced a 28% increase in defense spending for 2027, to €105 billion. Projections are €130 billion in three years. €11 billion in further support just this year. They are the main drivers of the €90 billion EU support package passed last week. So the EU money is already commited to this war.

Political will? Listen carefully. You hear that? That's the sound of absolute silence coming from the European leftists, the traditional Russian supporters. It's really hard to defend Moscow when they target children's oncology hospitals and openly brag about how much they are paying the left wing parties in Europe.

Marie Le Pen was on the cusp of being elected to the French Presidency before this war started. Now she is fighting to stay out of prison. Same with the Jeremy Corbin's of the UK and even the Italian "workers" parties. Not a peep from the lot. Merz, Starmer, Macron, the Dutch, Danes, Poles and Baltic countries are all on full blast with this war and no one is complaining. No. One. That's political will. It is slow in gathering momentum, but once its there, nothing will change it.

The Ukrainians know this because they have worked very hard to facilitate these changes. They are certainly not losing this war and they will get every inch of occupied land back by the time they decide to let off the gas.

Putin refused the offer of a Christmas ceasefire and broke the terms of the Easter ceasefire over 10,000 times. But now he is calling Trump to try to get him to call a ceasefire for Victory Day? That's desperation and it has nothing to do with any parades. He wants out now because he can see that he can't wait until the US midterms to stop the fighting. If he's even able to. With the way the Ukrainians are killing Russians and destroying their economy long term, they will not be interested in letting them off the ropes any time soon.

Remember what we all thought of the Russian army in February of 2022? Now look at the reality four years later. They have lost this war and are now just getting their people and economy killed. That is the reality.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:34 pm to
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You will be lucky if this thread is around by then with the way it's been ruined.

Yet here you are.
Posted by Coeur du Tigre
It was just outside of Barstow...
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 1:52 pm to
Much better sir.

Quite good, sound analysis more often and far less of the other stuff and I for one will be appreciative.

Right now Europe’s main opponent is in a cage death match with their neighbor, and it’s all Russia can do to stand their ground. Meanwhile it’s costing them more and more while Europe lets their neighbor wear them down.

Europe is a big winner here.
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:02 pm to
I think China looks at Imperial Japan trying to be a military empire occupying a big swath of the world and being defeated. Then they look at 60s/70s/80s Japan as a technological economic force that almost took over the world, with little resistance and almost tacit acceptance by the West, but failed because of internal economic factors. I believe Xi sees the latter as the blueprint to follow, if they can manage (and manipulate) the internal economic side of things, which seems to constantly bite them in the arse a bit.

They don't seem to have big blue water Navy ambitions... but they are cranking out patrol boats that could probably fit in our living rooms by the hundreds or thousands. The South China Sea (including Taiwan) is pretty much China's Ukraine... well along with the East China Sea...
Posted by Lee B
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:13 pm to
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The EU countries will pay the bills for as long as it takes. Absolutely. They've already made that commitment.



For Europe, this is literally a case of "let them fight them there so we don't have to fight them here."

Some people live in a dream world where Putin stops and becomes an ideal global citizen once he installs a puppet government in Kyiv, or what was it, when he just gets the Donbas?
Posted by LSUPilot07
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:18 pm to
Europe has yet to have to truly take on the lions share of the heavy lifting until recently and you’re ready to use the autopen statement, I mean the Biden statement, of “as long as it takes”. You obviously don’t know Europe or NATO and how rhey have skirted by on the coattails of our Air Force, Army, Marines and Navy for years and years and years. By all means though, plug your face in the sand and scream “as long as it takes” until your heart’s content but in a year when the front lines have moved all of a few kilometers in either direction you’ll see just what “as long as it takes” means to Europe. A little hint: it means the same as it did to Biden, JACK shite. But I’m still waiting on that master plan for victory for Ukraine. Please tell me how drones are going to reclaim the Donbas. I hate being so cynical but its obvious now to anyone who can see through an unbiased lens that neither side is winning this, its just how much more of each other they want to put in the ground before they stop. Thats a numbers game and Ukraine cannot win a numbers game with Russia, I’m sorry but that is the honest truth.
Posted by Chromdome35
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:37 pm to
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I'm as serious as a heart attack when I tell you multiple members of this administration are going to have severe legal problems when Trump leaves office.


Trump will follow Biden's lead and pardon everyone.

Your guy did it first...
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 2:37 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:47 pm to
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But I’m still waiting on that master plan for victory for Ukraine


If Ukraine survived as a nation with 75% of their territory intact, and secure then they are z big winner.

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I hate being so cynical but its obvious now to anyone who can see through an unbiased lens that neither side is winning this, its just how much more of each other they want to put in the ground before they stop. Thats a numbers game and Ukraine cannot win a numbers game with Russia, I’m sorry but that is the honest truth.


By my definition of winning, yes they can and they are proving it.

But no I can’t see an end where Ukraine is made whole again.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:58 pm to
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Trump will follow Biden's lead and pardon everyone.

Your guy did it first...


His guy is probably Starmer
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
8364 posts
Posted on 4/30/26 at 2:59 pm to
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For Europe, this is literally a case of "let them fight them there so we don't have to fight them here."

Some people live in a dream world where Putin stops and becomes an ideal global citizen once he installs a puppet government in Kyiv, or what was it, when he just gets the Donbas?


Money won't be the reason Ukraine loses if they do
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