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re: Landlord tells Harvard grad student to move after roommates found her legally-owned guns

Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 9:41 pm to
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So?


Unless the lease said no guns, the landlord breached the contract.
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19575 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Unless the lease said no guns, the landlord breached the contract.


Massachusetts, like pretty much all states in the north east, has strong anti-retaliation laws when it comes to landlords who attempt to evict tennants for causes other than clear breaches of the rental agreement. If this landlord is terminating a lease on the condition of a tenant who is lawfully exercising an individual right, they have opened themselves to significant civil penalties.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:10 pm to
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Unless the lease said no guns, the landlord breached the contract.
quote:

[quote]Unless the lease said no guns, the landlord breached the contract.



bullshite!!

No lease can strip you of your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

Imagine if the lease said, "No Christianity practiced". Same thing!
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:30 pm to
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No lease can strip you of your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!



Uh what? The Constitution protects you from the government, not other private individuals.
Posted by SlapahoeTribe
Tiger Nation
Member since Jul 2012
12708 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 10:46 pm to
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The landlord has the right to control activities on his private property.

Question: Does a bakery have the right to control who they provide services to?
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:11 pm to
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Let me educate you on properly secured..... When i was little all guns were hung on racks fully loaded and if you even looked at that rack for over 3 seconds you knew you wouldn't be able to sit down for a week. That is properly stored..... Didnt matter if it was at home or over at an uncles house same thing applied......


Same in our house, every relative I had, and the houses of just about everyone I knew as a kid. When did all this securely stored in a gun safe mentality evolve?
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
11385 posts
Posted on 11/30/18 at 11:31 pm to
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When did all this securely stored in a gun safe mentality evolve?


When too many incompetent people became parents and wanted the schools and tv to raise their kids instead of taking responsibility for themselves.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
26727 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 3:26 am to
I think I would be filing charges against the roommates. Trespass, illegal search, vandalism, everything I could think of to hit them with.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 3:28 am
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 4:15 am to
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Now, will the city/state protect this girl’s constitutional rights and fight the discrimination against her the same way they protect against the discrimination against other groups??? I have my doubts.
This paragraph serves as a perfect illustration of a poor understanding of the Second Amendment.

The Constitution says that the GOVERNMENT cannot “infringe” her right to keep and bear arms. It says NOTHING about preventing a private property owner from prohibiting the possession of weapons on his land.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 4:18 am to
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No lease can strip you of your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

Imagine if the lease said, "No Christianity practiced". Same thing!
You clearly have ZERO understanding of the Constitution.

The Bill of Rights prevents GOVERNMENTAL action.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 4:24 am to
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Question: Does a bakery have the right to control who they provide services to?

”Does” it or “should” it?

“Does it?” In many cases, no, because of various public accommodation laws. There is certainly a valid discussion to be had regarding the Constitutional VALIDITY of such laws under the Commerce Clause, but the current state of Commerce Clause jurisprudence makes that discussion rather moot.

“Should it?” Yes. As I have said more than 100 times (including at least twice yesterday), I oppose public accommodation laws as an infringement upon the rights of a business owner. My only caveot is that any business which refuses to serve any individual or group should be required to post/publish that information beforehand, so that the market has an opportunity to factor that discrimination into the decision-making process.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 4:41 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 6:43 am to
"Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious People."

That is to say a people who instinticvely understand that self defense is good, guns are good, snooping through your roommates stuff is bad, and 'gay marriage'isn't a thing.

Without trying to unwrap legal/intellectual pretzels to get there.
This post was edited on 12/1/18 at 6:45 am
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3237 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 6:52 am to
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Tell Dr. Zach about how you felt. Let's start with your mother. Did she point a gun at you when you were a baby?


No, but my roommate did when he got drunk once. I don't think it should be illegal for this to happen and certainly I agree with the second amendment. My comment was more in terms of common decency if you're sharing a communal space and bringing weapons. I.E. if I was married and owned guns, I would make sure my wife knew where they were and what condition they were stored in.

You guys were on a hair pin trigger about this yesterday
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
80916 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 7:03 am to
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bullshite!!

No lease can strip you of your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

Imagine if the lease said, "No Christianity practiced". Same thing!


Um, no. A no Christianity clause would violate the Fair Housing Act.

The landlord has property rights and can ban guns if that's what he wants. He cannot ban tenants based on a protected characteristic such as religion.
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15718 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 7:18 am to
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"Small govt conservatives” bitch about landlord exercising his private property rights.


No one here is bitching about the landlord exercising his private property rights. We're pointing out the absurdity of nut job liberals having their roommate kicked out over a pistol she legally owns.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
15060 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 7:51 am to
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Um, no. A no Christianity clause would violate the Fair Housing Act.

The landlord has property rights and can ban guns if that's what he wants. He cannot ban tenants based on a protected characteristic such as religion.




This is what I get for drunk posting. Apologies.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:11 am to
It appears that the young lady has a bunch of SJW roommates who like to snoop through others' stuff and raise hell if they find anything they disagree with. I hope she files charges and sues both them and the landlord.

frick a bunch of dumbass SJWs. Hold them accountable.

MAGA
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:14 am to
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”Small govt conservatives” bitch about landlord exercising his private property rights.


Did the rent agreement state that no guns were allowed on his property?
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 9:25 am to
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No one here is bitching about the landlord exercising his private property rights. We're pointing out the absurdity of nut job liberals having their roommate kicked out over a pistol she legally owns.


Bet those nut job liberals would’ve thanked her had she shot an intruder
Posted by Clames
Member since Oct 2010
19575 posts
Posted on 12/1/18 at 10:04 am to
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It says NOTHING about preventing a private property owner from prohibiting the possession of weapons on his land.


Except the courts have already decided that landlords' private propery rights are subject to modification. You are a perfect illustration of the ignorance of case law involving this issue.
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