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Posted on 6/2/25 at 10:58 am to SPEEDY
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Gone be such a huge loss when Justice Thomas is gone. Irreplaceable
And Alito, who is 75.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:00 am to CAD703X
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BLACK RIFLE BAD
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:00 am to Jbird
Sounds like my M4s and AKs are safe.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:02 am to Indefatigable
quote:just because exceptions exist doesn't mean EVERY exception is equally applicable.
The text of the first amendment is equally restrictive, and yet there are exceptions to everything listed in the first. Why would the second be any different?
For example, 1A has an exception for incitement or "screaming fire".
That doesn't mean an exception for 2A "scary black rifle bad!" should exist just like "hate speech" doesn't get excepted.
It is a false equivalency you are making.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:03 am to Jbird
I would love to see Colion Noir or some other extremely knowledgeable person on firearms argue this before SCOTUS. I would greatly enjoy their complete disassembling of the eventual "scary gun iz scary" statements posed as questions from Justice Wise Latina and Justice Diversity Hire.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:04 am to UnclePat76
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Assault rifles
What is this you speak of?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:05 am to I20goon
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That doesn't mean an exception for 2A "scary black rifle bad!" should exist just like "hate speech" doesn't get excepted.
When the 2A was written, we only had muskets. If the drafters knew what would come, I doubt it would be written as it is. We were also coming off the Revolutionary War, so it made sense.
But if we're making exceptions, why does voter IDs need to be required to vote? Where does it mention that in the Constitution?
You can't have it both ways. There are always going to be exceptions.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:07 am to mtb010
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Lets say they conclude it is not constitutional, who is going to go door to door trying to take AR-15's?
If they thought kicking doors in Baghdad and Fallujah was bad, do it in America.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 11:08 am
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:10 am to I20goon
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It is a false equivalency you are making.
You made up those false equivalencies. I said that there are reasonable restrictions on the first amendment rights, and the amendment has equally restrictive language to the second.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:12 am to wareaglepete
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Wrong precedent doesn’t make it right.
Libel, defamation, extortion, espionage, terrorism designations, etc are bad precedents?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:12 am to ForeverGator
quote:it isn't in Federal elections.
But if we're making exceptions, why does voter IDs need to be required to vote?
quote:it doesn't. It gives the power to the states to regulate their own elections.
Where does it mention that in the Constitution?
quote:doesn't mean every exception ever dreamed of applies.
You can't have it both ways. There are always going to be exceptions.
quote:ok, I doubt they envisioned Democrats would choose not to enforce federal law and allow +20 million illegal aliens in but Trump still can't use the Aliens Enemies Act because of the way it is written.
When the 2A was written, we only had muskets. If the drafters knew what would come, I doubt it would be written as it is.
You can't have it both ways indeed.
This post was edited on 6/2/25 at 11:13 am
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:16 am to Jbird
I guess it’s time to go out and get another one while I still can. I’ve had my eye on a Colt for a while now.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:30 am to Indefatigable
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Libel, defamation, extortion, espionage, terrorism designations, etc are bad precedents?
Personally, I think so.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:34 am to Jbird
The Constitution is clear: "...the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
I couldn't care less what a bunch of corrupt, controlled judges say. I'll follow the Constitution.
I couldn't care less what a bunch of corrupt, controlled judges say. I'll follow the Constitution.
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:42 am to ForeverGator
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When the 2A was written, we only had muskets. If the drafters knew what would come, I doubt it would be written as it is.
The government and foreign invaders also only had muskets.
So what do you think is appropriate for American citizens to be armed with?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:47 am to Jbird
I worry Roberts and ACB will vote the wrong way on this
Guarantee ACB will. Roberts I give 50/50 either way
Guarantee ACB will. Roberts I give 50/50 either way
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:47 am to ForeverGator
quote:Just like we only had printed paper. I guess the 1A doesn't apply to broadcasting, and the internet, amiright?
When the 2A was written, we only had muskets.
quote:Gee Wally, wouldn't it be great if they had provided some way to change the Constitution in the future? If only...
If the drafters knew what would come, I doubt it would be written as it is.
quote:Government authoritarianism hasn't disappeared.
We were also coming off the Revolutionary War, so it made sense.
quote:arse backwards. Where in the constitution does it say the government specifically cannot requrie voter IDs?
But if we're making exceptions, why does voter IDs need to be required to vote? Where does it mention that in the Constitution?
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:49 am to SPEEDY
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Gone be such a huge loss when Justice Thomas is gone. Irreplaceable
In a perfect world 9 people exactly like him would sit on the Supreme Court
Posted on 6/2/25 at 11:55 am to Jbird
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Kavanaugh signals Supreme Court will soon decide constitutionality of banning AR-15sby Jbird
What is potentially unconstitutional about ArmaLite brand rifles?
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