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Karmelo trial charging
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:45 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:45 pm
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Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:47 pm to Zahrim
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:47 pm to Zahrim
Hopefully the jury is fuming mad at Karmelo and charges him appropriately.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:48 pm to Zahrim
That probably does it then. Guilty of manslaughter. 8-10 years. Serves 4?
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:49 pm to TrueTiger
If they coward out and go with manslaughter, this PoS could be out of jail in 15 years.
That's bullshi=.
That's bullshi=.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:53 pm to Zahrim
Unfuqingreal. Whites cave and cower in fear every damn time. Sick
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:53 pm to hogcard1964
Less than 5 probably
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:56 pm to Zahrim
I think it’s a slam dunk for murder.
But it’s a jury. Anything can happen.
But it’s a jury. Anything can happen.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:56 pm to tigerlion
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Unfuqingreal. Whites cave and cower in fear every damn time. Sick
That's the America we live in now. Normal folks are intimidated by the other side.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:57 pm to TrueTiger
Honestly not all that surprising. More surprised it wasn't a thing earlier
He should rot in jail no matter what because feral beasts don't belong in civilized society, but it's not exactly a stretch to argue he might not have intended to kill him
He should rot in jail no matter what because feral beasts don't belong in civilized society, but it's not exactly a stretch to argue he might not have intended to kill him
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:57 pm to Zahrim
If they lessen to manslaughter, he will be out of jail maybe with time served (even though he hasn't been in jail).
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:57 pm to TrueTiger
Black privilege.
0.0% chance manslaughter is offered if races are reversed.
0.0% chance manslaughter is offered if races are reversed.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 12:58 pm to Zahrim
At whose request?
If defense thought they wouldn’t vote for murder why put manslaughter on the table?
Nvm: I read the article and it appears the judge did it.
If defense thought they wouldn’t vote for murder why put manslaughter on the table?
Nvm: I read the article and it appears the judge did it.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:01 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:00 pm to Zahrim
quote:This is incredibly common. There's nothing to be concerned about, or anything interesting about lesser included offenses being in the jury instructions.
They added a lesser included charge of manslaughter today
In fact, I am hard pressed to think of a criminal trial for a major crime that didn't include lesser offenses in the instructions.
The jury isn't deciding between murder and manslaughter. They have to unanimously decide to convict or acquit on murder before even considering manslaughter.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:00 pm to the808bass
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But it’s a jury. Anything can happen.
right see OJ
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:01 pm to Zahrim
SMDH
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:02 pm to Robin Masters
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At whose request?
Pretty sure the defense's
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If defense thought they wouldn’t vote for murder why put manslaughter on the table?
Likely b/c the defense feels a guilty verdict is inevitable and is hoping for a compromise down to the lesser instead of murder
Prosecution made sure it was known that the only way manslaughter can be considered is a unanimous acquittal on murder
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:03 pm to RemouladeSawce
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but it's not exactly a stretch to argue he might not have intended to kill him
That’s not the sole determinant. He did intend serious bodily harm. And the guy died. That’s murder.
This post was edited on 6/9/26 at 1:04 pm
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:03 pm to Zahrim
I don’t understand this based on the facts, but I haven’t watched the trial.
Getting the lesser included instruction to the jury almost certainly means they will use it as an out. This was always a HUGE for our jury trial teams, especially when there were obvious racial factors at play (I think you have to admit there are).
He will probably practically only do 3-4 years if convicted of MS.
Remember, the jury sees both boys in their suits. Hard for them to see him as a monster, and the MS is an easy way for them to sleep after trial.
Getting the lesser included instruction to the jury almost certainly means they will use it as an out. This was always a HUGE for our jury trial teams, especially when there were obvious racial factors at play (I think you have to admit there are).
He will probably practically only do 3-4 years if convicted of MS.
Remember, the jury sees both boys in their suits. Hard for them to see him as a monster, and the MS is an easy way for them to sleep after trial.
Posted on 6/9/26 at 1:03 pm to RemouladeSawce
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but it's not exactly a stretch to argue he might not have intended to kill him
He didn't have to intend to kill him to be convicted of murder.
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