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Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:15 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Excellent response after your team getting it shite pushed in the last couple days ! Is that you in the gif ? Probably, Rogaine and less soy baw/Her/shim .
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:23 pm to DreauxB2015
Relax bud. It was a joke in response to “never give up.”
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:25 pm to DreauxB2015
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Probably, Rogaine and less soy baw/Her/shim .
It’s name should be Slickey Cumswill
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:30 pm to Mickey Goldmill
I know . Jk around baw . But seriously , what is your take on the last couple days of testimony ? Should this go further on what was presented ?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:43 pm to DreauxB2015
From what I’ve seen, there is no shot that Lake will be declared the winner. There just isn’t enough there to support that.
The only chance she has is for a new election, but I’d be very surprised if that was the ruling. Mainly because the bar is so high on what Lake had to show.
The only chance she has is for a new election, but I’d be very surprised if that was the ruling. Mainly because the bar is so high on what Lake had to show.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:57 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The most she can possibly win is new election. Then she could also get full recount. I believe judge is being very fair but he'll rule to let it stand. This judge pushed for 2 day trial to beat xmas holiday, so his priorities are not election integrity.
Do I think lake showed enough invalid ballots (the only thing she has to prove) to legally demand new election? Yes.
Do I think lake showed enough invalid ballots (the only thing she has to prove) to legally demand new election? Yes.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:15 pm to philter
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I believe judge is being very fair but he'll rule to let it stand.
This is why election integrity is so poor. Cheating/fraud/improper procedure/etc....how is anyone supposed to prove it if no one (i.e. court/judges) wants to stand up for it when it does happen?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:24 pm to David_DJS
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David_DJS
I was on the road for a good chunk of the day, what's the summary of today's hearing?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:32 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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disenfranchisement
/\ THIS /\
The progstains have completely upset the logical election process by just muttering 'disenfranchised' over and over again.
THIS was a clear case of PLANNED disenfranchisement - and it was targeted by the very obscene 'disenfranchisement' chants the progstains used to get the enabling actions taken.
let's take their war-cry away from them
DISENFRANCHISEMENT!!!!
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:34 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Are you admitting some bs went on and we should have a do over ? Or , are you saying some bs went on but it was not enough for a do over ? Or , are you saying it wasnt proved enough bs took place to do anything at all?
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:39 pm to LSU2ALA
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Some states have done this for years with no issues
I would reckon that they had no 'ballot harvesting' features and that their ID verification was a lot more rigorous. I think Wisconsin has had a category of 'shut-in' (people who can not leave their homes) that allowed mail-in balloting but they were very strict on IDing those ballots and had historically reject more than 6% of all the ballots they got - and they usually had low turnout on that category - In the 100s. BUT , in the very secure 2020 election they expanded to universal mail-in balloting and they got 100s of thousands - but only rejected <0.3%.
Increasing the orders of magnitudes of occurrences combined with having order of magnitude increase in verifiablity is a very successful process.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:40 pm to Bard
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I was on the road for a good chunk of the day, what's the summary of today's hearing?
IMO - the accusations regarding chain of custody were proven. Even some procedures that may not technically violate law/rule book, are comically bad. It's amazing some of the shite that goes on is SOP.
But I don't think the plaintiffs proved election results were substantially impacted by any of the BS, let alone election results were changed. Frankly, with burden of proof with plaintiffs, I don't think genuine and substantial fraud could ever be proven. How do you prove 100,000 fraudulent ballots were slid into a system that is so loosely run? You'd have to do a forensic audit by hand - from signature verification, check of voter rolls to hand counting votes, and probably have to interview some statistically relevant number of voters. Otherwise the government's own ineptitude is an impenetrable defense.
I was surprised by the quality of work from both teams of attorneys. A significant amount of time, they didn't know what they were talking about. Example, in closing, Lake's lead made a point (I think he said it twice) that only 0.06% of the vote would give Lake the 17K votes, out of 1.6 million, needed to change the outcome. I have no idea what he was trying to say but I know that math is fricked. And it was in prepared closing statements.
Anyway, I'll be shocked if the judge gives us anything more than some critical comments about how poorly MC runs elections, and suggestion they do better. I hope I'm wrong.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:44 pm to David_DJS
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ow poorly MC runs elections,
I think we should go after the one in charge of the elections and they should never hold another political position.
So whomever was the AG overseeing the election needs to be barred from running for any office ever again.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:45 pm to Bard
If nothing else , please just watch 10-15 minutes of Slick Willie Stallones testimony and ask yourself . Is this guy reading from a script and why is the judge allowing this? Then the finale outcome against Lake wont be surprising it will be expected . Sham. Hope I'm wrong and the Judge will do what is right.
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Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:46 pm to David_DJS
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I don't think this is how it would work. You have to take into account turnout and the fraction of voters that do it in person.
I was strictly using the 900,000 number of eligible election day voters that Hobbs team talked about and Rich Baris' analysis of 2.5% suppression. Hobbs' side said in closing that it would've required a 16% higher turnout for Lake to make up the 17,000 vote difference. That's just mathematically incorrect based on how we know election day votes skewed Lake.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:47 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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no shot that Lake will be declared the winner.
Hell - I am not even advocating that - even though it is 99.999& probable that she was the actually winner of legitimate votes.
A new election is the only remedy - and if it is performed (due to the exponential threat of more skullduggery in the process) that it should be a ONE-day election at specified locations, with absolute verification of ID, residency, citizenship, proper registration, paper ballots.
Do the paper ballots on carbon 3 ply copy paper - one copy retained by the Marine Corps as a final quality check, and the other two copies counted by court appointed representatives with qualified observers every step of the way.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 7:47 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Relax bud. It was a joke in response to “never give up.
Mickey, you're good people. Now I want to watch Galaxy Quest.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 8:25 pm to DreauxB2015
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Hope I'm wrong and the Judge will do what is right.
He won't. This trial is just a bone to throw to the right.
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