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re: Kari Lake Election Contest TRIAL! Viva & Barnes Live Commentary
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:08 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:08 pm to Cali 4 LSU
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No, per a Sworn witness with data. BUT the state can't say "yes we did, here is the proof:" which, by law, they must maintain.
This ^^
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:11 pm to loogaroo
I love the Hobbs argument that Lake showed evidence of only 50 votes being inserted into the count without chain of custody as if that means it isn't possible more could've been. That is clear fraud if it happened.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:13 pm to MFn GIMP
Judge isn't going to like her criticizing his decision to allow this trial.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:14 pm to MFn GIMP
What is going on "the pillow guy"?
ETA: I know he's talking about Lindell but what a weird way to open his statement.
ETA: I know he's talking about Lindell but what a weird way to open his statement.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:16 pm to MFn GIMP
It's voters faults for voting on Election Day.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:16 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Not sure about you baws but Lakes Att closing arguments was impressive and convincing .
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:17 pm to MFn GIMP
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It's voters faults for voting on Election Day.
Exactly!
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:18 pm to DreauxB2015
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Not sure about you baws but Lakes Att closing arguments was impressive and convincing .
I was convinced when they have a sworn witness saying they didn't follow the law & the state couldn't prove they did follow the law, which is required by LAW!!!
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:20 pm to DreauxB2015
What an insane end to this Hobbs closing. I refuse to vote early. I dislike it and choose to vote on the Constitutionally sanctioned election day how and it is the "Tuesday next after the first Monday in November" how is it my fault if I choose to vote, in person, on that day? I thought Lake's team proved their case this election but that statement right there would've switched my opinion.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:24 pm to MFn GIMP
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love the Hobbs argument that Lake showed evidence of only 50 votes being inserted into the count without chain of custody as if that means it isn't possible more could've been. That is clear fraud if it happened.
I asked that earlier.
if 50 were not properly handled do we have a new election? I bet not.
lake lost by way more than 50 and some of the 50 were straight ticket Democrats.
so maybe a net plus 20 R votes. give lakes people a day. find more. if they can't find even a few forget it. they had a month.
50 isn't 50 for lake.
they are unknown.
while it's interesting its nowhere near rising to massive fraud or even specifically anywhere near enough to make lake the winner if all 50 voted R.
I bet there is no re vote if this 50 is peak fraud.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:25 pm to MFn GIMP
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It's voters faults for voting on Election Day.

Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:27 pm to CelticDog
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I asked that earlier.
if 50 were not properly handled do we have a new election? I bet not.
lake lost by way more than 50 and some of the 50 were straight ticket Democrats.
so maybe a net plus 20 R votes. give lakes people a day. find more. if they can't find even a few forget it. they had a month.
50 isn't 50 for lake.
they are unknown.
while it's interesting its nowhere near rising to massive fraud or even specifically anywhere near enough to make lake the winner if all 50 voted R.
I bet there is no re vote if this 50 is peak fraud.
That's one of the issues. There is no clear chain-of-custody provided by the Hobbs team or Maricopa County. How can you say it was only 50? You can't and if we know there were 50, per testimony, without any chain of custody is that not a concern for you? I want 100% chain of custody in every single election not just for candidates I would have liked to see win. How can we say we have accurate, fraud free, elections without that?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:27 pm to Cali 4 LSU
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:29 pm to MFn GIMP
Now what? How long for the results of this case?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:32 pm to CelticDog
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50 isn't 50 for lake.
they are unknown.
Exactly....it is unknown. So how is that a free & fair election?
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:35 pm to CelticDog
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I asked that earlier.
if 50 were not properly handled do we have a new election? I bet not.
You missed the point of about half of the testimony.
The only reason 50 came up as a number is the state's witness mentioned it, but throughout the whole proceedings it's been proven that if the witness accidentally said 50,000 rather than 50, the state could not have disproven this.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:43 pm to MFn GIMP
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16% higher voter turnout? Absolutely not, it is a complete mischaracterization of Baris' testimony and the math. If only 2.5% of outstanding voters on election day was depressed because of the issues that is 22,500 votes and a 78/22 split of that 22,500 for Lake would have her the election. The election day split was 70/30 and it's an easy argument that those who didn't vote because they were seeing Lake voters having issues would've been higher than the 70/30 split she did get.
I don't think this is how it would work. You have to take into account turnout and the fraction of voters that do it in person.
Posted on 12/22/22 at 5:52 pm to MFn GIMP
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The last witness testified that testing showed no issues at all and that a tech made changes on election day. After showing no issues.
No issues in testing. They encountered problems on election day that they attempted to fix (that's the argument - I wasn't there).
Posted on 12/22/22 at 6:04 pm to LSU2ALA
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