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re: Justice Kavanaugh May Have Handed the United States a Roadmap to Fix Birthright Citizenshi
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:17 am to theballguy
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:17 am to theballguy
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SCOTUS failed.
If we want them to strictly interpret by what's in the Constitution, then how did they fail?
1. The 14th Amendment was clearly conceptualized, passed, and ratified by the states to apply to freed slaves. It was one of three "Civil War Amendments."
2. Legislative Intent Doctrine. Look it up. The legislative intent of Congress at the time it was passed was clear. Anyone who thinks Congress meant birthright citizenship to apply to hoards of invading third world savages coming here illegally, by the millions, and shitting out babies to subvert the traditional legal immigration process... is a retard
3. Times and circumstances have changed from when the 14th Amendment was enacted to the point where we have millions of people shitting out anchor babies, which liberal politicians are then fleecing the American tax payers to pay for, for people who hate this countryand do not wish to assimilate, and wish to destroy or fundamentally change this nation to accommodate their foreign cultures, religions, customs, and savagery.
These people while being protected by the U.S. Constitution right now--and SCOTUS' flawed Constitutional interpretation--will shite on and shred the Constitution and principles this country was founded on when they get power. It's already happening in NYC, Seattle, Colorado etc.
Birthright citizenship was never meant to apply to these pieces of uncivilized shite. Anyone not paying attention to what has been happening in Western European nations with their mass immigration of third-world muslims and Africans needs to pay attention and wake up. We're next... and this horrible ruling by SCOTUS only helped usher it in here.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 10:21 am
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:19 am to deltadummy
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You Westboro folks should know your time is over
So, being against abortion is an extremist view to you? You left wing marxists never cease to amaze me at how low you will demean yourselves.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:19 am to Auburn1968
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any path to lasting change would likely require an act of Congress.
Therein lies the biggest issue.
In order to fix things, we're forced to rely upon the most historically unreliable and corrupt government entity in modern times.
There is a sum total of three Congress members that I believe are actually Trustworthy, and all three are in the House. Zero in the Senate.
It's time to balkanize and divorce into separate entities and let the cards fall where they may. In another 50 years when the hyper-prog blue-zones have completed collapsed, we can reunite under one banner just in time for America's big 300th birthday.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:20 am to Auburn1968
I said this yesterday. He is punting to an act of Congress, therefore congress...
He knows they aren't going to do anything.
He knows they aren't going to do anything.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:24 am to cajunangelle
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He is punting to an act of Congress, therefore congress...
He knows they aren't going to do anything.
He is saying that is what should have happened
They literally can't act (legislation) even if they wanted to now thanks to Roberts's decision
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:25 am to narddogg81
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lol. The Supreme Court has reversed itself over 150 times
I am referring to Congress attempting to pass legislation to "correct" the issue.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 12:42 pm to omegaman66
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It seems very apparent to me that birthright citizenship was never the intention of the law as it was written to address the slavery issue.
But that law was poorly written if my assumption is correct.
I am 100% against judges ruling on what they SAY was the intent of the law. It is and never has been (even thought they do it sometimes) the job of a judge to interpret the intent of a written law.
It makes zero sense to interpret a law in a manner different than its intent.
If you do, you are simply putting the legal process over the will of the elected representatives who wrote the law. You are putting the legal profession over the people.
You are giving lawyers freedom to squirm out of laws using twisted logic, and you think you are being principled for it.
When did it become conservative to stop using common sense? When did it become conservative to be ok with the destruction of America because "those are the rules?"
The fact that conservatives can literally sit here and say it was obviously never the intent of the writers of the amendment but that they are still ok with the false interpretation because someone 150 years later says it means something it doesn't is mind-boggling.
The Founders gave us the roadmap to fix all our problems with the second amendment. But the conservatives who actually understand the stupidity of not using the legislation's intent can't pull themselves away from a screen long enough to make any impactful change.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:08 pm to Auburn1968
So he acknowledged that the law is broken as written…and knows as well as anyone that congress is also broken, but declined to vote differently. He had an opportunity fix a major wrong…for the obvious good of the country and future generations, but failed to do so. frick him.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:11 pm to Auburn1968
They got it wrong plain and simple...there comes a time when incorrect decisions such as this one that is a direct threat to the Constitutional Republic must be ignored and if congress does nothing then they too need to be dealt with...
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:13 pm to salty1
Everyone just standing around pointing at each other in DC.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:19 pm to TG
quote:And their pay raises.
The only thing our politicians agree on is when their vacation starts!
And their exemption from insider trading laws.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:37 pm to BTROleMisser
The complicating factor here is that beyond the misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment, America has had between 80 and 100 million immigrants since the early 1800's so there is a long history of birthright citizenship for the children of immigrants.
The issue is that that 80 to 100 million came here legally for the most part and the current bunch of illegal aliens have not.
The issue is that that 80 to 100 million came here legally for the most part and the current bunch of illegal aliens have not.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:55 pm to Auburn1968
I am not sure Congress can change based on what Roberts wrote
But I find it interesting that the entire opinion is based on English common law and Wong Lim and yet English common law no longer replies in England and that was not addressed
But I find it interesting that the entire opinion is based on English common law and Wong Lim and yet English common law no longer replies in England and that was not addressed
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 1:56 pm
Posted on 7/1/26 at 1:58 pm to dafif
Roberts is a fraud and has screwed America twice now
Posted on 7/1/26 at 4:46 pm to narddogg81
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This is dumb. You have to interpret for intent of the law because meanings of words change over time.
Wrong. Interpreting what the they wanted to do with the law allows them to impose their ideas and act as the legislature. I can say you didn't intend anything I want to say you didn't intend even if you did intend it.
For example if I say you have 2nd amendment rights. A judge can simply say they didn't mean that and take away your rights to carry a gun under your shirt or in a car, or outside of your house.
Again. it is not within the scope of a judges authority to just up and decide that the law is not what is written into law.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:02 pm to Auburn1968
The Executive Branch tried to fix it because the Legislative and Judicial are too stupid, but I guess we can't have that. So I hope the anchor babies here now will eventually be voting my best interests later when I'm old and feeble.
Posted on 7/1/26 at 5:10 pm to Auburn1968
He pussed out BIGLY... He should have voted to end BRC and then made a side note that congress should codify it.
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