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re: Justice Kavanaugh May Have Handed the United States a Roadmap to Fix Birthright Citizenshi

Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:50 am to
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:50 am to
Unfortunately, based on Roberts ruling, Congress cannot do that.

The only thing that can remedy it is an Amending the Constitution itself .
Posted by theballguy
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38883 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:51 am to
Next step is for you to run for office.
Posted by Nurbis
Member since May 2020
2431 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:52 am to
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through legislation


We all know this will never happen. Democrats will vote against anything that could be a benefit to American citizens, and Republicans don't do anything ever.

We can say it isn't the Supreme Court's job to correct it, but that doesn't stop the leftists judges. They only ever vote on what their party wants. It is only the supposed conservative justices who ever pretend to be impartial in their decisions.

If a fire starts in your home and you have an extinguisher in your hand, do you put it out or wait for the fire department because it is their job? You put out the fire because you know half the fire department is bringing gasoline to pour on it, and the other half will not respond to the call.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130970 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:53 am to
It literally can't happen now.

Roberts ruling went further than anyone anticipated. It says that the Constitution grants birthright citizenship, period

Congress can't legislate that away.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66568 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:53 am to
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Next step is for you to run for office.


No point to that, everyone I vote for votes exactly the way I would. The problem isn't my area and isn't something that can be fixed by voting. SCOTUS failed. It's that simple.
This post was edited on 7/1/26 at 9:54 am
Posted by theballguy
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38883 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:54 am to
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Roberts ruling went further than anyone anticipated. It says that the Constitution grants birthright citizenship, period



He's not wrong. It sucks but he's not wrong. There are ways to remedy it if enough people agree.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
39994 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:54 am to
The Globalist Transnational Progressive DEI Democrat Party believes that ALL people in the World are ‘citizens’ and should have a moral Right to access of basic goods, services and relative affluence (like tickets to watch our Tigers). This would be true ‘Social Justice’. The kind that our White (racist) Founders denied and constructed a Document (Constitution) of the which asserted their ‘injustice’ and Obama labeled as “a Document of negative Rights “.

The talk will continue to raise and inflame passions towards the process which ultimately determines ideological dominance and Authoritarian rule. And it ain’t voting or 9 partisan people wearing black robes. Sadly so.

Envy and relative affluence cannot be censored from the human psyche. Although the coming AI-based (Convergence) Totalitarian government will definitely give it a try. They have to. For the sake of Humanity.
Posted by theballguy
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38883 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 9:55 am to
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SCOTUS failed.


If we want them to strictly interpret by what's in the Constitution, then how did they fail?
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66568 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:01 am to
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If we want them to strictly interpret by what's in the Constitution, then how did they fail?


They didn't do that.
Posted by BTROleMisser
Murica'
Member since Nov 2017
15089 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:03 am to
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Nah.

He’s just a pussy and didn’t want to rule in favor of something so controversial.


I mean, he already had a psycho commie leftist show up to his family home to attempt to assassinate him. And the Democrats encouraged it.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
130970 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:07 am to
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If we want them to strictly interpret by what's in the Constitution, then how did they fail?



I don't think they did:

First, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" : A foreign national is subject to a different nation no matter where they are

2, the literal writers of the Amendment scoffed at the idea that it would apply to foreign nationals. In writing. Several times.
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4142 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:08 am to
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It seems very apparent to me that birthright citizenship was never the intention of the law as it was written to address the slavery issue


Anyone who disagrees with this is a retard or intellectually dishonest ie a liar
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
22152 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:09 am to
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literally can't happen now.
lol. The Supreme Court has reversed itself over 150 times
Posted by Sweep Da Leg
Member since Sep 2013
4142 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:09 am to
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Vote better!


Yeah because we such trustworthy elections right? Rightttt???!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66568 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:09 am to
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First, "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" : A foreign national is subject to a different nation no matter where they are


Correct, the way they interpreted this makes no sense. It's like saying the children of bank robbers get to keep the money.

No, your children don't get to profit from you committing a crime. That's not the way things work.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66568 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:11 am to
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lol. The Supreme Court has reversed itself over 150 times


Oh so your solution is to hope we lose 3-4 more left-leaning Justices and get some Alito/Thomas/Gorsuch clones in their stead?
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
17234 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:12 am to
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It seems very apparent to me that birthright citizenship was never the intention of the law as it was written to address the slavery issue.

But that law was poorly written if my assumption is correct.


This falls 100% on the now dead DUMBASS politicians who wrote that. If it was to address slavery (and I believe it was) they should have written it for that purpose... expressly.

Something like: We hereby grant full citizenship to all living, former slaves of the United States and to their dependents who are born on US soil.. Short, sweet and to the fricking point.

Did the dumbasses do that? No, They write stuff purposely vague so others can decide how it is to be enforced.

Kick the can down the road.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
66568 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:13 am to
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This falls 100% on the now dead DUMBASS politicians who wrote that. If it was to address slavery (and I believe it was) they should have written it for that purpose... expressly.


They did. That's why American Indians weren't immediately conveyed citizenship when it passed.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
56591 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:15 am to
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congress should act to fix it. They won't

I think they will. This is extremely popular.
Posted by RollingwiththeTide
Member since Oct 2020
6947 posts
Posted on 7/1/26 at 10:16 am to
Maybe we can get the Dems to fly to China and convince the CCP that men can have babies and they should start sending trans women to the US on these birth tourism trips. Something tells me that the CCP commies is not as dumb as our commies in the Dem Party. Be hey Congress isn’t going to fix this anytime soon. We have no avenue to fix this mess until they do. I say let’s give it a shot and see what happens lol.
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