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re: Judges are trying to become president.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:01 am to
Posted by pankReb
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Member since Mar 2009
73063 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:01 am to
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There's not a logical relationship between that case and this one


Stop slide your way out of this. You agree that not everyone deserves their day in court. It doesn’t matter what the relationship between the cases are or are not.

Do you or do you not agree that everyone, both US citizens and not, deserves their day in court?
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82307 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:02 am to
quote:

So when a leftist gets in and says "Global warming (or insert other liberal cause) is a existential problem and we have to act quickly. We don't have time to follow a slow and plodding judiciary system,"


If the whole of the people uniformly believe in the existential threat, they won't.

The key is, is the threat real or not?

But if enough people believe that it is real, that won't matter either.
Posted by eddieray
Lafayette
Member since Mar 2006
19441 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:02 am to
I like some of his domestic policies but he’s too dishonest to go unchecked. I don’t know of a more dishonest person. It’s comical watching you guys gobble down every shameless lie he tells.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:03 am to
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the failure of the Trump administration to follow those procedures.


Did y’all ’follow the procedure’ to let 15 million random foreigners through the south gate? It was a treasonous act y’all said wasn’t even happening. Courts, courts, courts…yea right.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:04 am to
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quote:

appropriate procedures
Appropriate as determined by.....?
statute
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:04 am to
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I like some of his domestic policies but he’s too dishonest to go unchecked.


Everyone is too dishonest to go unchecked.

Judges included.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:05 am to
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statute


Statutes don't bang a gavel. A person decides whether or not they're following "appropriate" procedure.

If you don't know just say so.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:06 am to
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bullshite. TDA is a declared terrorist organization. Its the clear letter of the law.


The declaration may be outside the clear loader of the law, and the people ensnared in the designation may not fit the statutory authority granted to the president by Congress.

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:07 am to
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Did y’all ’follow the procedure’ to let 15 million random foreigners through the south gate?
Who is this “y’all?”
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91070 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:07 am to
oh and frick this POS judge saying he cannot ban trannys from military. where was this bitch last time trump banned them?

f all these judges. ignore them.
Posted by DefCon1
Member since Dec 2017
785 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:08 am to
Trump needs to take away the security clearances of the judges. Then anything related to national security that they demand can be rejected.
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
29557 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:08 am to
It's the Democraps last ploy, they couldn't figure out how to stop Trump so this is their new plan.

They tried jail, tying him up in court, bankruptcy, humiliation, murder and a fake news propaganda smear.


These people hate America

Posted by Boss
Member since Dec 2007
1790 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:08 am to
quote:

f all these judges. ignore them.


So this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause.
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2979 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:09 am to
So what statutes did Trump violate by deporting illegal aliens?

If your President hadn’t ignored the law for four years in the first place, we wouldn’t have the problems with the illegals in the first place.

So only Trump has to follow every detail of the law, but Dems can do whatever the hell they want because that’s (D)ifferent. This is what got Trump elected. If you can’t admit that, then you’re part of the problem.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:11 am to
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I admit that I am not familiar with the lawsuit addressing this issue. Convenient. Obama literally kills a US citizen on foreign soil. Why? Because he's a terrorist.
again, the point to which I was responding was an allegation of “judicial silence“ about that event

I am not familiar with a lawsuit which would have given any opportunity for “judicial statements.“

If you’re familiar with such a lawsuit, please let us know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:15 am to
quote:

Stop slide your way out of this.


I'm not. The 2 cases aren't comparable.

The Obama case was dismissed for standing and justiciability. Standing is an irrelevant point to this Trump matter, as the parties clearly have standing (being physically present in the US and still being alive). The Justiciability issue is the one being debated in the Trump matter, when there was an actual, clear military operation going on in the Obama matter. So, again, nothing alike.


quote:

Do you or do you not agree that everyone, both US citizens and not, deserves their day in court?

My personal opinion is that everyone does deserve their day in court and these laws are authoritarian.

The legal analysis is whether or not the law removing DP applies to this situation. That's one of the main issues being analyzed by the judges.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24273 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:16 am to
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Maybe it is not a "Radical Left Lunatic Judge" acting alone, but rather a duly, Constitutionally appointed and confirmed federal judge, enforcing statutes enacted by the American people acting through their elected representatives in Congress. Just a thought.


An absolutely ridiculous and indefensible thought, but yeah a thought.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:17 am to
quote:

So what statutes did Trump violate by deporting illegal aliens?
The question is if his invocation of the 2 laws relied upon was legal/proper.

Nobody disputes that he could have deported most, if not all, of these people via normal deportation proceedings. The Trump admin chose a different, much more theoretical and aggressive (legally) path.

quote:

If your President hadn’t ignored the law for four years in the first place, we wouldn’t have the problems with the illegals in the first place.

Biden isn't my President, and this is an irrelevant point to the legal discussion.

quote:

So only Trump has to follow every detail of the law, but Dems can do whatever the hell they want

No. Biden was rebuked by the courts multiple times and I agreed with the courts in pretty much every one (if not every one).
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:18 am to
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The Obama case was dismissed for standing and justiciability.


That's what happened.

People are really discussing why that happened, and I suspect you know this.

You and Hank keep trying to paint this as if the decisions are objective made and politically untainted, and nobody believes that any more.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 9:19 am
Posted by roadGator
DeBoar’s dome
Member since Feb 2009
157710 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:19 am to
Maybe it’s some of both but ignoring the resistance they always clearly say they will do seems silly.

Obama and Biden pushed through some radical leftists. There’s no denying that.
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