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re: Judges are trying to become president.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:47 am to
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5113 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:47 am to
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Maybe it is not a "Radical Left Lunatic Judge" acting alone, but rather a duly,


Wrong, any search will prove that point FALSE. There is a organization directing these moves. It's not voters, it's Globalists
Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
68333 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:51 am to
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Judges have no authority to question the president's opinion.

Wow.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28107 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:55 am to
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Who checks the judge that oversteps his boundaries?


SFP thinks it's the Constitution. I guess it comes alive like a Harry Potter book and wrecks shite.
Posted by Gifman
Clearwater Beach, FL
Member since Jan 2021
18852 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 am to
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SFP thinks it's the Constitution. I guess it comes alive like a Harry Potter book and wrecks shite.


This is why I laugh at people who say we’re a nation of laws. At the upper levels of government, we’re a nation of political will.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:57 am to
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Who checks the judge that oversteps his boundaries?

We have an appellate process just for that.

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Should a District Court judge be able to "check" the Commander-in-Chief?

Yes.

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How were previous President's decisions reviewed?

The same way

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you know damn well the chaos that would ensue if this judge isn't reprimanded for attempting to intervene here.

That's a very histrionic way of framing this.

The Trump admin is on the edge of legality if they haven't crossed the line. Why would it be chaos if ultimately it's determine these actions are illegal?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:58 am to
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This is why I laugh at people who say we’re a nation of laws. At the upper levels of government, we’re a nation of political will.


I hope you didn't criticize Biden ever, then.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:58 am to
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Judges have no authority to question the president's opinion.


If we have no judicial oversight/recourse, what happens when a citizen is labeled a "terrorist" and then put on a plane in the middle of the night and shipped off to a Central American jail? Do they just have to grin and bear it?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16062 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 am to
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Wow


Presidents have lots of power that judges can't override.

Congress can by impeachment.

They still have oversight.

Can a judge decide that the military can't rotate different units around the globe?

No. But congress can through impeachment.
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2836 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 am to
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If the "mandate" were that overwhelming, there would be no problem revising the statutes that are preventing him from acting unilaterally


The current statutes allow him to act unilaterally. He doesn't have to wait for all the activist judges to confer and work each action through the legal system before the action is taken.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 am to
Its not that you arent wrong its the point that this is going to cause every President post Trump to become impotent, as the tit for tat judicial bench will folly anything because Politics. Which is not what the Judicial Branch was meant to be.

Maybe this is also the play of the Globalists. Make the Judicial Branch political and cause the populace to scream for reform.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:04 am to
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Its not that you arent wrong its the point that this is going to cause every President post Trump to become impotent, as the tit for tat judicial bench will folly anything because Politics.

Nobody had issues when the judiciary made Biden impotent (like with his vaccine mandate or the SL forgiveness reg via CARES)
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16062 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:05 am to
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we have no judicial oversight/recourse, what happens when a citizen is labeled a "terrorist" 


Under the alien exclusion act, it applies to non citizens.

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 Do they just have to grin and bear it?


Obviously not. The law applies to non citizens.

And remedy is impeachment.

Not some random judge.

You know many presidential powers are not actually under judicial review.

Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:07 am to
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Nobody had issues when the judiciary made Biden impotent (like with his vaccine mandate or the SL forgiveness reg via CARES)


Under what constitutional basis should people be forced into questionable injections and pay for other people's debt?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:09 am to
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Under the alien exclusion act, it applies to non citizens.


I agree. The question is if they take a citizen, what is the recourse if there is no judicial oversight?

My stance is judicial oversight is necessary for these determinations, but you're arguing that's not possible. Hence my question.

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Obviously not. The law applies to non citizens.

If the judges can't review the actions of the admin, then how can a court determine the applicability of the law to the citizen?


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:09 am to
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Under what constitutional basis should people be forced into questionable injections and pay for other people's debt?

I don't disagree with those rulings making Biden impotent.
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
879 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:13 am to
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We have an appellate process just for that.


Appellate. Not TRO. Discuss the legality of a District Court judge countermanding an order by the CIC, in real time. As stated on a nationally syndicated radio program yesterday, can a DC judge order the return of an aircraft carrier once it's put to sea?

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That's a very histrionic way of framing this.

The Trump admin is on the edge of legality if they haven't crossed the line. Why would it be chaos if ultimately it's determine these actions are illegal?


Even for you, claiming a deportation issue decision made by the administration is likely illegal, when the power is clearly granted to the CIC by the Constitution, is more than a bit of a stretch. If anyone ever doubts how you lean politically, they should re-read this post.

ETA: your political leanings are your business, BTW. I just take issue with the fact that you deny them. It's sort of like a bad cop...those really piss me off. If you wear the badge, act like a good guy. If you want to do gangster shite, at least take the badge off and represent yourself a such.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:16 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:15 am to
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Discuss the legality of a District Court judge countermanding an order by the CIC, in real time.

that's an issue for Congress, who gave that jurisdiction to the lower courts.

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Even for you, claiming a deportation issue decision made by the administration is likely illegal, when the power is clearly granted to the CIC by the Constitution, is more than a bit of a stretch.

Had they done a normal deportation process, there would be no commentary

Trying to manufacture both an "invasion" for the AEA and a terrorist designation under the AUMF is a stretch. This is the outer limits of the President's authority, if they haven't gone past these statutory limits.

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If anyone ever doubts how you lean politically, they should re-read this post.

I'm for small government, so I don't know why you'd be shocked that I would be against this expansive, borderline insane, interpretation of Executive power.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43447 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:19 am to
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I'm for small government, so I don't know why you'd be shocked that I would be against this expansive, borderline insane, interpretation of Executive power.


So you would be very open to doing what ever it deems necessary to root out the fourth branch right?
Posted by TD422
Destrehan, LA
Member since Jun 2019
879 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:20 am to
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I'm for small government, so I don't know why you'd be shocked that I would be against this expansive, borderline insane, interpretation of Executive power.


Thomas Jefferson once said, and I believe I'm paraphrasing here: "The purpose of government is to provide the people that which they cannot provide themselves."

I'm for the safety and the stability of our nation first.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476567 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:21 am to
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So you would be very open to doing what ever it deems necessary to root out the fourth branch right?

It isn't that dramatic.

Congress just needs to repeal lots of laws. The AUMF is a perfect start.
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