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re: Judges are trying to become president.

Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:50 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:50 am to
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they are not just "illegals".

They are terrorists.


Maybe. That's what the courts are trying to analyze.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:50 am to
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You should let the feds know this immediately so we can all not give a frick about your opinion together


Read the Reason article I linked earlier in this thread.

The feds argued on some that the lack of evidence of criminality was evidence of criminality
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:51 am to
So you’re saying the President can’t enforce laws already on the books if some liberal judge says so?

They are here illegally, so they can’t stay. Pretty cut and dry for most people with a brain.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:51 am to
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Where does the Constitution say that I have the right to be murdered by a criminal illegal migrant?

Just a though
A strange one.

Do you have a "right to be murdered" by ANYONE, citizen or not?

I don't even know what a "right to be murdered" might mean.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:53 am to
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Nobody is sympathizing or defending TDA. They're just saying TDA should get a hearing prior to being deported to Venezuela.
It’s just really odd how silent these judges were when Obama drone strikes a US citizen.
I admit that I am not familiar with the lawsuit addressing this issue.

Can you provide a citation?

Because a federal judge only get to "say something" when a lawsuit has been brought in his court.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:53 am to
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What does that have to do with the price of tea in China?


Then you’re missing the very obvious point.

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ACLU


=\= a federal judge filing. But yes….good for them to actually put their partisanship aside.

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There is discussion about justiciability, but that was more clear in the Obama case due to actual military actions (unlike this case where that's not established and is a major question for the courts to analyze)


So what you’re saying is that not everyone deserves their day in court. Good to know.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:54 am to
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Not in Maga world


That case is from the 5th Circuit
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:54 am to
And you cry when people call you out for your idiotic postings.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:54 am to
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If the "mandate" were that overwhelming, there would be no problem revising the statutes that are preventing him from acting unilaterally.




Point to the statute that says the Treasury Secretary can't access the Treasury Department network. Because this was one of the acts your "honorable" judges tried to prevent.

When you're so biased that you have to say stupid things in a failed attempt to justify your argument, you should take a step back until you find some self-respect.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:54 am to
That's not an answer. Its a simple question.

You have no issues with an unelected judge, even with severe COI issues, unilaterally "undoing" the presidents constitutionally protected duty to national security on pathetically weak legal grounds - wasting taxpayer resources. Than you should have no issues with Trump flooding the DC circuit with his own croney judges to do the exact same thing to future administrations.

Liberals sure forgot quickly all of their anguish and drama over the so-called "Trump SCOTUS". I dont remember a single democrat defending the judges who slapped down Biden's student loan boondoggle or the vax mandate. Not one.


Posted by Zgeo
Baja Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:55 am to
Judges are on the wrong side of all these 80/20 issues, at least the judges working against the Trump administration. Even CJ Roberts when he sided with an obviously compromised Judge on the issue of deporting criminal illegal aliens (this is a 95/5 issues). The only people that want ilegal alien rapists, murders, drug runners in the USA are people like the judges family that make money off the criminals….

It is a stall tactic only. If the judges continue it will kill the judiciary. Roberts should condem the activist judges . Otherwise he ruins the system by supporting activist judges that dont like the outcome of an election…..
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:56 am to
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You mean like enforcing the statute that it is a crime to enter this country illegally? Like the statute that says if you do that you can be deported? Those statutes?
Indeed.

And the related statutes that outline the appropriate procedures for doing so.

And it is the LATTER point that is at issue in these cases, my friend. In particular, the failure of the Trump administration to follow those procedures.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:56 am to
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I admit that I am not familiar with the lawsuit addressing this issue.


Convenient.

Obama literally kills a US citizen on foreign soil. Why? Because he's a terrorist. And the left, who cant fricking handle Trump deporting Venezuelan terrorist gang members "dont remember that case".
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:57 am to
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Then you’re missing the very obvious point.

What point?

There's not a logical relationship between that case and this one

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So what you’re saying is that not everyone deserves their day in court.

I don't like the authoritarian law

I don't like the authoritarian law being applied to people who aren't terrorists even more

This board has developed schizophrenia. For the past 8 years MAGA has hated George Bush and all of his war on terror bs, but now it's a central theme of what you hope the Trump administration does.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:57 am to
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So you’re saying the President can’t enforce laws already on the books if some liberal judge says so?
No, my friend, I am not saying that at all.

I am saying that those same statutes outline the appropriate procedures for pursuing that enforcement, and that Trump needs to follow them.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:58 am to
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Convenient


He’s trying to be clever because I used the word “silent”.

He’s just being his typical idiotic self.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:58 am to
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appropriate procedures


Appropriate as determined by.....?
Posted by Mr Cell Phone
Member since Nov 2021
1276 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:59 am to
Ok so we are ignoring the legal system meaning the Wild , Wild , West no accountability, no laws to follow just a free for all open the flood gates .

Have you ever heard of the constitution we have a system of check and balances in place for democracy.

Everyone is a criminal , a rapist , a thug , a murder, a gang member . The criminal is you a January 6 supporter .
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476468 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 8:59 am to
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You have no issues with an unelected judge, even with severe COI issues, unilaterally "undoing" the presidents constitutionally protected duty to national security


The question is whether or not this is a valid description

Courts have to decide whether this is actually a national security issue or if the president is improperly using a statute granting him authoritarian powers.

The president's power is limited by the Constitution and Congressional authority granted to him via statute. The president can only act within these limitations in any act outside is illegal and improper, and that's what the courts have to analyze.

quote:

I dont remember a single democrat defending the judges who slapped down Biden's student loan boondoggle or the vax mandate. Not one.

The hypocrisy on these issues is with MAGA

A better way to phrase it is I didn't see MAGA melting when judges ruled at the bottom administration acted outside his constitutional and statutory authority.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47562 posts
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:00 am to
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Maybe. That's what the courts are trying to analyze.


bullshite. TDA is a declared terrorist organization. Its the clear letter of the law.

This "analysis" only exists to gum up the works.
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