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re: Jimmy Carter was NOT a Christian

Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Night Vision
Member since Feb 2018
18489 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:14 am to
Matthew 12:33

Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
22273 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:20 am to
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If he was for abortion, then he was a faux Christian.


I agree. When the church of politics trumps the teaching of the Bible, one becomes a politician.
Posted by UptownJoeBrown
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2024
6572 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:25 am to
frick that Democrat peanut farmer.
Posted by Houag80
Member since Jul 2019
17632 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:25 am to
Jimmuh was in love with Castro, Chavez and Arafat.

The end.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
3981 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:42 am to
let's look at LOT. he was the mayor of sodom. offered up his 2 virgin daughters to the perverts at his door. yet he was a "saved" man.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
51687 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:45 am to
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I think it’s awesome that someone can be so firm in their belief of words, spoken by a dude 2000 years ago, written around 30 years after he spoke them, with such conviction.

I’m not a Christian, but in their defense, they believe the words were divinely inspired, not just remembered.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
13994 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:58 am to
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.


Citizens Judged Carter when he ran against Reagan. Liberal Press has tried to reinvent the A hole but folks who lived through his idiocy, just like Biden, know the real Jimmy Carter.

We don't "Judge" who is going to Heaven but we have informed opinions of their worth on earth.
Jimmy gets an F, in my opinion.
Posted by theballguy
Bama Park
Member since Oct 2011
28423 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:59 am to
Anyone can just declare themselves a Christian. The Christian God will know the difference. So Christians don't have to worry about that judging shite.
Posted by Dex Morgan
Member since Nov 2022
3113 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:59 am to
He's dead...

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Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
75227 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:00 am to
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I’m not a Christian
Judging by your posts calling the 9/11 terrorists and the guy last night in New Orleans “brave”, it’s pretty easy to tell where you align
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
1771 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:08 am to
you're absolutely right he was a protestant and by definition a heretic but he's figuring that out now, he can give my regards to george and barbra bush they're in the room next to hitler!
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
34642 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:15 am to
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He was not a good man.


No one is righteous, no not one.

Without the imputed righteousness and propitiating work of the only righteous man, he is just as bad as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Osama (et al.).

And, while obedience doesn’t cause salvation the converse is always true.

Sorry, I’m reading Jonathan Edwards so that was a longwinded way of saying +1.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39831 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 am to
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.


You need to read the Bible. You are absolutely to judge. How else are you to lead them to Jesus if you do not judge? We do not condemn them to an eternal fate but while on this side of the affair, we are to judge.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
18493 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:08 am to
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge

Don't judge me for judging.

quote:

John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
Bravo Romeo Lima Alpha
Member since Feb 2005
61347 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:10 am to
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So, please quit saying he was a "good man." He was not a good man.



For the record, scripture clearly says there are no “good men”.

But I get what you’re laying down. We aren’t saved by being good men, but one that has been saved will regardless of themselves or their works as an example, champion God’s word over man’s word because God and His word is in their hearts and is the supreme authority over what is right and what is wrong.





Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
18126 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:17 am to
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mistersnagalotapus


Who are you to judge another?
Posted by tketaco
Sunnyside, Houston
Member since Jan 2010
21477 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:34 am to
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.


I'm a Catholic and I judge you all. Bunch of Paganist.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
10217 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:43 am to
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At least 75 books are left out of the original Bible.


A whole lot more books were left out than that. What makes you think that anything written back then that mentioned any of the historical figures involved should have been included?

Here's the problem with that narrative: Paul quotes Luke in his letters and makes it clear that Luke's gospel is considered scripture. He also makes it VERY clear that the gospel narrative is well established by that point. All of the Gnostic Gospels, et al, clearly contradict the theology of what we know Paul and Peter considered correct.

So why would they be included in the canon?

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One of the reasons is because over the years the translation changed and they are no longer canon.


I would need a link to know exactly what you are talking about here, but if you mean what I think you mean, they almost certainly weren't considered scripture from the beginning. Therefore they likely weren't subjected to the same copying procedures. I think you have it backwards. They weren't left out because their translation changed, their translation changed because they were left out.

Even if I am wrong about that, however, that only proves the point. It was discovered that the text was not faithfully preserved, so they were abandoned. Using that logic, the stuff that wasn't abandoned is stuff whose translations did not change.

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Luke and John spoke Koine Greek and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so their books are already a translation.


Jesus spoke at a minimum Aramaic and Hebrew (otherwise there would be no way for Him to have read the scrolls at the Jewish Temples as He is depicted as doing), and it also stands to reason that He would have spoken Koine Greek as well since he was a tradesman and that was the language of trade at the time.

However, again, even if that is wrong, Luke has Matthew and Mark to compare to. If there was a significant problem with the "translation" in this case, we would know.

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Newer versions and translations are no longer the same. Even in the same language a sentences could mean something different a 100 years later.


Categorical error. The accuracy of the manuscript is one thing. The correct interpretation of the manuscript based on correct knowledge of how the words were used and cultural references, etc. is another. Again, translation aren't made from previous translations. They are made from the oldest source material available.

So sure, scholars are still translating based on the best historical evidence, and that evidence changes and grows as we learn more. But again, this is not the "problem" deniers try to act like it is.

For example, Bart Ehrman famously claimed that there are more "errors in the New Testament than words." Of course that statement was designed to depict a completely unreliable document (which he doesn't even hold to himself).

The following is a long video that I don't expect anyone to watch all of, but there is a section during which the scholar speaker illustrates how specious Ehrman's claim is by demonstrating how many ways there are in ancient Greek of writing the phrase "John loves Mary." Right around the 1 hour mark.

YouTube

Keep in mind that in none of the variations does the phrase "John loves Mary" change at all. It doesn't become "Mary is loved by John," or "John feels love for Mary," or anything except "John loves Mary."

He demonstrates that there are over 1200 ways to say this same thing in Greek, and none of them change the meaning at all.

He also says that less than 1/5th of 1% of the NT textural variants actually alter the meaning of the text.

It's a red herring.






Posted by BamaCoaster
God's Gulf
Member since Apr 2016
6568 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:45 am to
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in their defense, they believe the words were divinely inspired, not just remembere


Convenient, no?
Posted by HagaDaga
Member since Oct 2020
5573 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:11 am to
He was also an election denier, and we all know that's worse than anything. Even all the terrorists attacks combined.
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