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re: Jimmy Carter was NOT a Christian
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:14 am to BamaCoaster
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:14 am to BamaCoaster
Matthew 12:33
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Either make the tree good, and his fruit good; or else make the tree corrupt, and his fruit corrupt: for the tree is known by his fruit.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:20 am to TrueTiger
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If he was for abortion, then he was a faux Christian.
I agree. When the church of politics trumps the teaching of the Bible, one becomes a politician.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:25 am to mistersnagalotapus
frick that Democrat peanut farmer.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:25 am to aTmTexas Dillo
Jimmuh was in love with Castro, Chavez and Arafat.
The end.
The end.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:42 am to aTmTexas Dillo
let's look at LOT. he was the mayor of sodom. offered up his 2 virgin daughters to the perverts at his door. yet he was a "saved" man.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:45 am to BamaCoaster
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I think it’s awesome that someone can be so firm in their belief of words, spoken by a dude 2000 years ago, written around 30 years after he spoke them, with such conviction.
I’m not a Christian, but in their defense, they believe the words were divinely inspired, not just remembered.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:58 am to momentoftruth87
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.
Citizens Judged Carter when he ran against Reagan. Liberal Press has tried to reinvent the A hole but folks who lived through his idiocy, just like Biden, know the real Jimmy Carter.
We don't "Judge" who is going to Heaven but we have informed opinions of their worth on earth.
Jimmy gets an F, in my opinion.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:59 am to mistersnagalotapus
Anyone can just declare themselves a Christian. The Christian God will know the difference. So Christians don't have to worry about that judging shite.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 7:59 am to mistersnagalotapus
He's dead...
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:00 am to Penrod
quote:Judging by your posts calling the 9/11 terrorists and the guy last night in New Orleans “brave”, it’s pretty easy to tell where you align
I’m not a Christian
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:08 am to mistersnagalotapus
you're absolutely right he was a protestant and by definition a heretic but he's figuring that out now, he can give my regards to george and barbra bush they're in the room next to hitler!
Posted on 1/1/25 at 8:15 am to mistersnagalotapus
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He was not a good man.
No one is righteous, no not one.
Without the imputed righteousness and propitiating work of the only righteous man, he is just as bad as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Osama (et al.).
And, while obedience doesn’t cause salvation the converse is always true.
Sorry, I’m reading Jonathan Edwards so that was a longwinded way of saying +1.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:03 am to momentoftruth87
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.
You need to read the Bible. You are absolutely to judge. How else are you to lead them to Jesus if you do not judge? We do not condemn them to an eternal fate but while on this side of the affair, we are to judge.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:08 am to momentoftruth87
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge
Don't judge me for judging.
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John 7:24
24 Judge not according to the appearance, but judge righteous judgment.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:10 am to mistersnagalotapus
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So, please quit saying he was a "good man." He was not a good man.
For the record, scripture clearly says there are no “good men”.
But I get what you’re laying down. We aren’t saved by being good men, but one that has been saved will regardless of themselves or their works as an example, champion God’s word over man’s word because God and His word is in their hearts and is the supreme authority over what is right and what is wrong.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:17 am to mistersnagalotapus
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mistersnagalotapus
Who are you to judge another?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:34 am to momentoftruth87
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And as Christian’s our job isn’t to judge as he will have to answer for his sins.
I'm a Catholic and I judge you all. Bunch of Paganist.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:43 am to MizzouBS
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At least 75 books are left out of the original Bible.
A whole lot more books were left out than that. What makes you think that anything written back then that mentioned any of the historical figures involved should have been included?
Here's the problem with that narrative: Paul quotes Luke in his letters and makes it clear that Luke's gospel is considered scripture. He also makes it VERY clear that the gospel narrative is well established by that point. All of the Gnostic Gospels, et al, clearly contradict the theology of what we know Paul and Peter considered correct.
So why would they be included in the canon?
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One of the reasons is because over the years the translation changed and they are no longer canon.
I would need a link to know exactly what you are talking about here, but if you mean what I think you mean, they almost certainly weren't considered scripture from the beginning. Therefore they likely weren't subjected to the same copying procedures. I think you have it backwards. They weren't left out because their translation changed, their translation changed because they were left out.
Even if I am wrong about that, however, that only proves the point. It was discovered that the text was not faithfully preserved, so they were abandoned. Using that logic, the stuff that wasn't abandoned is stuff whose translations did not change.
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Luke and John spoke Koine Greek and Jesus spoke Aramaic, so their books are already a translation.
Jesus spoke at a minimum Aramaic and Hebrew (otherwise there would be no way for Him to have read the scrolls at the Jewish Temples as He is depicted as doing), and it also stands to reason that He would have spoken Koine Greek as well since he was a tradesman and that was the language of trade at the time.
However, again, even if that is wrong, Luke has Matthew and Mark to compare to. If there was a significant problem with the "translation" in this case, we would know.
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Newer versions and translations are no longer the same. Even in the same language a sentences could mean something different a 100 years later.
Categorical error. The accuracy of the manuscript is one thing. The correct interpretation of the manuscript based on correct knowledge of how the words were used and cultural references, etc. is another. Again, translation aren't made from previous translations. They are made from the oldest source material available.
So sure, scholars are still translating based on the best historical evidence, and that evidence changes and grows as we learn more. But again, this is not the "problem" deniers try to act like it is.
For example, Bart Ehrman famously claimed that there are more "errors in the New Testament than words." Of course that statement was designed to depict a completely unreliable document (which he doesn't even hold to himself).
The following is a long video that I don't expect anyone to watch all of, but there is a section during which the scholar speaker illustrates how specious Ehrman's claim is by demonstrating how many ways there are in ancient Greek of writing the phrase "John loves Mary." Right around the 1 hour mark.
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Keep in mind that in none of the variations does the phrase "John loves Mary" change at all. It doesn't become "Mary is loved by John," or "John feels love for Mary," or anything except "John loves Mary."
He demonstrates that there are over 1200 ways to say this same thing in Greek, and none of them change the meaning at all.
He also says that less than 1/5th of 1% of the NT textural variants actually alter the meaning of the text.
It's a red herring.
Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:45 am to Penrod
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in their defense, they believe the words were divinely inspired, not just remembere
Convenient, no?
Posted on 1/1/25 at 10:11 am to mistersnagalotapus
He was also an election denier, and we all know that's worse than anything. Even all the terrorists attacks combined.
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