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re: JD Vance doesn’t run his household. How can he run the country?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:09 am to grizzlylongcut
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:09 am to grizzlylongcut
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There is no salvation outside of Christ. Maybe read Romans 10:9-10. The apostle Paul says absolutely nothing about the dogma of the church.
The Catholic Church agrees: salvation comes through Jesus Christ alone.However,Scripture teaches that the Church is Christ’s physical Body (Ephesians 1:22-23). Therefore, you can not accept the Head (Christ) while rejecting His Body (the Church).To confess "Jesus is Lord" (Romans 10:9) means submitting to the visible Church that He personally built and gave authority to (Matthew 16:18).
Hope this helps!!!
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:25 am to aubie101
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Therefore, you can not accept the Head (Christ) while rejecting His Body (the Church).
Ok, who’s the church?
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the visible Church that He personally built and gave authority to (Matthew 16:18).
And that’s when Roman Catholicism was born? Or maybe it was Greek Orthodoxy?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:27 am to Metaloctopus
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Getting along" is not what's most important. Sometimes you have to do what's difficult, even if it means your spouse ends up leaving you. But really, the mistake was marrying a Hindu woman, in the first place.
Look at this nut job.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:44 am to aubie101
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Yes, otherwise known as a Catholic... there is no salvation outside the church.
Are you familiar with the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium?
Chapter II, paragraph 16:
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The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.
Link to Lumen Gentium full text
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:48 am to grizzlylongcut
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Therefore, you can not accept the Head (Christ) while rejecting His Body (the Church).
Ok, who’s the church?
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the visible Church that He personally built and gave authority to (Matthew 16:18).
And that’s when Roman Catholicism was born? Or maybe it was Greek Orthodoxy?
The Church was born 33 AD.. Both Catholics and Otho Bros claim it and have legitmate claims.. Protestant beliefs would be called heresy by the early church .. In fact they were.... So I hope that helps!
The Protestant faith is a nothing like the historical church... Read the church fathers and see how Mass was celebrated.People walked with the diicples wrote about it.. Or, you can take Pastor Bob's word that communion is just a symbol.
Take and eat, this is my blood given to you.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:55 am to Stinger_1066
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Are you familiar with the Vatican II document Lumen Gentium?
Chapter II, paragraph 16:
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The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator. In the first place amongst these there are the Muslims, who, professing to hold the faith of Abraham, along with us adore the one and merciful God, who on the last day will judge mankind.
Yep, I know it well.....
While this passage emphasizes a shared belief in the God of Abraham,... it does not state that Muslims are automatically saved, nor does it validate Islam as a parallel path to heaven. ...Later in the same paragraph, the Council defines the strict boundaries for how non-Christians might be saved, beginning with the requirement of invincible ignorance, meaning an individual must be entirely unaware of the Gospel through no fault of their own.... they must engage in sincere seeking, being actively moved by grace to look for God and diligently follow the dictates of their conscience.
Finally, the Church firmly establishes Christ as the source of all salvation, maintaining that any elements of truth or goodness found in Islam are merely a "preparation for the Gospel given by the Holy Spirit, meaning that all salvation ultimately flows through Christ alone.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:27 pm to rmnldr
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Okay soy boy
How is that being soy, ****?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:36 pm to SludgeFactory
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You know it is killing progressives not to be able to call Vance a racist due to his marriage.
I have no doubt the demons will do it anyway while degrading his wife.
Apparently it's killilng you that JD's wife isn't a Christian.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:05 pm to wackatimesthree
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1. There are very few—VERY few—people left on the planet currently who qualify as living their whole lives isolated in non-Christian cultures and never having any contact with the Gospel.
True, but that doesn't change the importance of what I've posted. Sure, some kid that grew up in Somalia is aware of Christianity, has likely seen/heard from missionaries, can learn quite a bit all sorts of ways. But he doesn't benefit the same way I've benefited from being born into a Catholic family, attending 12 years of Catholic school, being raised in the culture and in a country that has freedom of religion.
I was blessed, have been given a great deal - more is expected of me. I will be judged differently than a person born/raised in oppressive, even anti-Christian environments.
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2. I appreciate your thoughts, but you still haven't answered the question. Is the quoted post here what you were taught? Is it mainstream Catholic theology?
I'm reluctant to say "mainstream Catholic theology" because in some ways, I'm not a conventional Catholic, but I will say - what I've posted in this thread is taught/discussed in Catholic schools/circles, and most Catholics likely agree with my main points.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:09 pm to Adam Banks
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Well you refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. Vance’s wife is a professing Hindu and rejected Christianity.
Will she go to hell?
Adam, you're listening with your fingertips. I have clearly posted that I believe it's possible for a person born into a Hindu family/culture to reach heaven. I've also posted that I think it's folly, and pretty strange coming from a Christian, by the way - to think that either one of us can know how God will judge another person. But if you're into that sort of thing, frick Usha - tell me, am I going to heaven? Are you?
Posted on 6/24/26 at 2:40 pm to David_DJS
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I have clearly posted that I believe it's possible for a person born into a Hindu family/culture to reach heaven.
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Here's your post - I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell. What part of that do you think I find controversial?
These two quotes from you say very different things.
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I've also posted that I think it's folly, and pretty strange coming from a Christian, by the way - to think that either one of us can know how God will judge another person
Listen you clearly feel differently about the Bible being the word of God.
However it’s the opposite of saying “**** Usha” to discuss this if you believe the word of God if she is clearly rejecting Christ as Lord as she did in this video.
Why would I not say something if I believe the word of God?
That would be extremely hateful. It would be like a parent watching their child and actively letting a toddler burn themselves on the stove.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 3:19 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
Are you proud?
What is Nicholas Fuentes' latest, are you joining him and you are now a Democrat? Just curious... you usually aren't shy.
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Posted on 6/24/26 at 4:45 pm to Adam Banks
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Listen you clearly feel differently about the Bible being the word of God.
You're clowning this exchange, which is too bad.
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These two quotes from you say very different things.
No they're not but they do highlight the point you're too closed-minded to understand.
I believe the Bible is the word of God. You typing otherwise doesn't change that.
Where we don't agree is that you and those you learned Christianity from, are who gets to decide what those words mean for everybody.
But being a Christian, I'll give you a little more help. I'll use one of your posts as an example:
I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell. What part of that do you think I find controversial?
We agree on the first part of that post. Where many awesome Christians disagree with you/those you follow is the second part, what "knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion" means and how God passes judgment accordingly.
Posted on 6/24/26 at 4:56 pm to David_DJS
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Listen you clearly feel differently about the Bible being the word of God. You're clowning this exchange, which is too bad.
Well you don’t seem to think that God has said what one must do to be saved even when it is explicitly said in the Bible. So you might understand my confusion.
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ans disagree with you/those you follow is the second part, what "knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion" means and how God passes judgment accordingly.
If you can show me the verse where it says someone can know Jesus and Christianity and actively choose to not follow Jesus and go to heaven I’m happy to hear.
Additionally in the scenario presented she is actively worshipping another God.
I’m not sure how one could reject Christianity any more than that. It takes a lot of gymnastics of interpretation or straight disregard of verses IMO to say otherwise.
I sincerely hope she repents.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 5:02 pm
Posted on 6/24/26 at 6:03 pm to cajunangelle
quote:you are far more tuned in with nick and tuck than I am
What is Nicholas Fuentes' latest
Posted on 6/24/26 at 10:01 pm to Adam Banks
It’s almost as if the bible says all kinds of different stuff. It’s okay for us Christians to question it. “I don’t know” is acceptable in the pursuit of God’s salvation. Relentless bible thumping is tiresome.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 2:35 am to Mo Jeaux
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So are you claiming that Vance isn’t a Christian? Isn’t a good Christian? That he doesn’t or shouldn’t love his wife?
I just think that you sound bigoted.
I have never really believed the guy to be very sincere, but IF he is any kind of Christian, it isn't healthy to be married to someone who doesn't share your beliefs, and it doesn't speak well of him that he seems entirely unbothered by whether or not she believes in the true God. If you really love someone, that should be more important than anything, rather than just going along to get along.
There is nothing "bigoted" about that. I'm not sure you know what that word means. I would be a bigot if I said you shouldn't marry someone who isn't the same skin tone, or from the same country, or something along those lines. My objection to "split-faith" marriages is entirely a Biblical one. It's not a personal issue with his wife. She might be a very nice person. But nice people don't go to heaven by just being nice. That's not where salvation comes from, and I can't understand a guy who claims to be a Christian, just smiling and nodding at his wife talking about her refusal to change from her Hinduism.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 2:40 am to Powerman
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The Bible says all sorts of nonsense.
You should go take that up with The Lord. May He have mercy on your soul and lead you out of the darkness before it's too late.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 2:45 am to djsdawg
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Look at this nut job.
If following the Bible means being called a nut job, I'll wear that as a badge of honor. Thanks.
Posted on 6/25/26 at 3:03 am to Metaloctopus
Vance doesn’t just make me nervous but he totally scares me to death. I have major concerns about him. The Vance family religious beliefs isn’t even a little part of what makes me very apprehensive about him. Vance and his wife can find a cockroach and worship it as far as I’m concerned. All I care about is what kind of job he will do for this country.
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