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re: JD Vance doesn’t run his household. How can he run the country?

Posted on 6/23/26 at 7:13 pm to
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38056 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 7:13 pm to
Apparently you think that’s controversial. I meant to say I didn’t think it would be. However. You yet to explain why citing scripture that would be wrong.
This post was edited on 6/23/26 at 7:14 pm
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22851 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 7:27 pm to
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Apparently you think that’s controversial.

I think that makes you 0 for 3.

Here's your post -

I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell.

What part of that do you think I find controversial?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14161 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 7:49 pm to
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I believe Christ is the unique Savior of humanity. In this, I believe there is no difference between me/Catholics and the guys involved in this exchange.

Where we differ is how God judges, and the notion that we're all judged precisely the same (or not). My belief - God doesn't judge people for a revelation they never had a genuine opportunity to receive. Otherwise, salvation would depend as much on accident of birthplace and time as on God's justice.

In other words, and I believe this is consistent with Jesus' own words - people are judged according to what they've been given. "To whom much is given, much will be required." In this light, I don't believe someone born into an isolated, non-Christian culture will be judged the same way someone who knowingly rejects Christ after hearing the Gospel will.

Adam has made something of the notion that "works earn salvation" but that's not quite what I'm suggesting. Works do not earn God's grace, but works can demonstrate that a person is responding to God's grace, even if they have never known Him explicitly/may not recognize the source of that grace. To be clear, if they are saved, they are saved by Christ alone.


I agree with what you have written above.

However, two things:

1. There are very few—VERY few—people left on the planet currently who qualify as living their whole lives isolated in non-Christian cultures and never having any contact with the Gospel.

2. I appreciate your thoughts, but you still haven't answered the question. Is the quoted post here what you were taught? Is it mainstream Catholic theology?
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
14161 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 7:57 pm to
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Or those religions were similar enough that the doctrinal differences really didn’t effect how one would go about living their everyday life to the point that the distinctions were primarily personal and spiritual rather than practical outside of a few holiday traditions (which didn’t interfere with each other and could be celebrated without intruding on the other religion).


Like what?

What world religion can you name that advocates for people of mixed faiths marrying?
Posted by DawgCountry
Great State of GA
Member since Sep 2012
33535 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:02 pm to
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Nothing is more hypocritical than a feminist


Paging cubbies
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
38056 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:09 pm to
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I think that makes you 0 for 3. Here's your post - I don’t think it would be controversial that a professing Christian would believe the scriptures that say that Christ is the only way to salvation and that someone who knowingly rejects that and follows a different religion would end up in hell. What part of that do you think I find controversial





Well you refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. Vance’s wife is a professing Hindu and rejected Christianity.


Will she go to hell?
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
8634 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:37 pm to
Nonsense. BTW, the only running Biden ever did was to the potty.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41982 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Well you refuse to answer a simple yes or no question. Vance’s wife is a professing Hindu and rejected Christianity. Will she go to hell?


Don’t know. Don’t care. Thats irrelevant to the future of our nation.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80401 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 8:45 pm to
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I’ve said this plenty times, JD is suspect.

Team Rubio.

You're choosing the pot over the kettle? We know Rubio cant be trusted.
This post was edited on 6/23/26 at 8:46 pm
Posted by Neutral Underground
Member since Mar 2024
3602 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 9:16 pm to
The real question is what are his children? God fearing Catholics or Pagan worshipping Hindus?
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61032 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:18 pm to
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You're choosing the pot over the kettle? We know Rubio cant be trusted.

at least you know what you're getting with Rubio

Who knows what Vance actually cares about
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
80401 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:22 pm to
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at least you know what you're getting with Rubio
Yeah, Gang of Eight.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
41982 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:26 pm to
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Who knows what Vance actually cares about


Anti woke
Anti fraud
Border
Illegal immigration
Iran peace

Posted by AquaAg84
Member since May 2013
3981 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:35 pm to
OP is a racist.
Posted by rbm1
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2011
715 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 10:41 pm to
89% of children raised in a two religion home become adults that don't believe in any of it! Wow JD Vance isn't my choice....Eric is!
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10552 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 11:05 pm to
In fairness I don’t really know, but it seems logical.

But even if I am wrong about her politics, my point still stands.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
19074 posts
Posted on 6/23/26 at 11:31 pm to
Posted by Wildcat1996
Lexington, KY
Member since Jul 2020
10552 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 12:24 am to
“Cucked” is easily the most grossly misused and overused term on this forum.

Would someone please engage in some critical thinking?

Good Lord.
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6976 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:01 am to
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This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:06 am
Posted by Metaloctopus
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2018
6976 posts
Posted on 6/24/26 at 1:02 am to
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Hey, if their religion works for them and their values don’t conflict with mine for how our children get raised, then I don’t see the problem. I grew up in a mixed faith marriage where we attended services at both religions, celebrated both sets of holidays and traditions, and we got to choose which one to practice when we were old enough to make that choice ourselves.


We are not supposed to be unequally yoked in marriage. There is one true God, not just whatever god you feel like serving. It is a failure for any man who calls himself a Christian to enter into that kind of marriage, and then to make no effort to convert his wife. You can't force her, and I'm not suggesting he should, but I wouldn't be sitting there nodding my head with a smile on my face as my wife expresses her disinterest in changing from her false religion.

"Getting along" is not what's most important. Sometimes you have to do what's difficult, even if it means your spouse ends up leaving you. But really, the mistake was marrying a Hindu woman, in the first place.
This post was edited on 6/24/26 at 1:03 am
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