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Is it possible to keep a country if almost everything is subservient to the profit motive?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 6:59 pm
I can’t help but think that many of the problems in the US that most of us want solved originated with someone wanting to make more money.
Illegals, foreign owned businesses, welfare, take your pick.
I also think that many of us are fooling ourselves about what America is really about now. Our culture revolves around money and consumption foremost (I think).
Illegals, foreign owned businesses, welfare, take your pick.
I also think that many of us are fooling ourselves about what America is really about now. Our culture revolves around money and consumption foremost (I think).
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Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:01 pm to weagle1999
The economy changed because of the two house income situation and the tax for Democrat farms . It’s ruined alot
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:02 pm to weagle1999
Some very powerful people in this world just can't let go of that post-WW2 economic boom. It must be kept growing at all costs.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:03 pm to Madking
That is a great point.
Lost in all the ‘celebration’ about when women entered the workforce en masse is the fact that the value of labor dropped.
Almost like it was planned, huh?
Lost in all the ‘celebration’ about when women entered the workforce en masse is the fact that the value of labor dropped.
Almost like it was planned, huh?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:03 pm to weagle1999
Believe it or not, self-interest is the most important factor driving an economy to operate at maximum efficiency. We can and have tweaked our version of capitalism many times over the centuries to benefit one group or another, but the distortions almost always lead to bad incentives and lower efficiency. Eventually that's how an economy breaks.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 7:07 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:05 pm to weagle1999
And the birth rates cratered like it was planned.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:05 pm to Frank Belavis
Another good point and related to a question I asked on here once: Is our economy just supposed to grow forever, into infinity? How is that sustainable?
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:08 pm to weagle1999
Capitalism isn’t killing us
Crony capitalism sure is
Crony capitalism sure is
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:09 pm to weagle1999
Capitalism isn’t perfect but it’s by far the best economic system in the world. Things get messed up when you start mixing in elements of socialism like FDR did. Capitalism has done more to lift people out of poverty than any other system in history. It’s brought rapid advancements in electricity, running water, medicine, etc to poor countries. Stupid politicians want to merge it with big government and it backfires. Socialism always fails not free market capitalism.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:12 pm to wdhalgren
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Believe it or not, self-interest is the most important factor driving an economy to operate at maximum efficiency.
But that’s demonized. Look at socialism being responsible from the death of tens of millions in the 20th century and we have idiots still romanticizing it.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:12 pm to weagle1999
I would substitute 'influenced' for 'subverted'. If not then you have your answer.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:12 pm to weagle1999
In the absence of profit, there is no way measure if an economic activity has enriched society or made it poorer
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:13 pm to Sofaking2
I can’t say I disagree with much of that.
But I can’t unsee the hordes of non-US workers building new houses and picking fruit, or the dot people running our gas stations and hotels. All of that is back to Americans wanting of maximize profit.
But I can’t unsee the hordes of non-US workers building new houses and picking fruit, or the dot people running our gas stations and hotels. All of that is back to Americans wanting of maximize profit.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:45 pm to weagle1999
If everyone works and is paid a fair wage. There is a balance , but absolutely makes long term growth sense. Quality product. Quality worker.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:50 pm to weagle1999
While capitalism may be the strongest economic system we currently have, one of its inherent drawbacks is that it relies on perpetual growth. There’s never a point where the system recognizes “good enough,” because expansion is built into its foundation.
I’m not a biblical person, but it’s hard not to notice how closely that resembles the idea of greed as it relates to money/revenue.
I’m not a biblical person, but it’s hard not to notice how closely that resembles the idea of greed as it relates to money/revenue.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:51 pm to Sofaking2
Well something happened in the late 1920s that caused FDR to be elected.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 7:53 pm to weagle1999
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I also think that many of us are fooling ourselves about what America is really about now. Our culture revolves around money and consumption foremost (I think).
Breeding us to be consumers and keeping us that way is a great way to distract us from what they're doing with "the other hand".
You remember that grand announcement for a "Golden Dome" missile defense system? Look into that deeply, and the surveillance it promises to bring. Now combine that with legislation to put monitoring devices and kill switches in all vehicles beginning in 2027, the permissions you give the little device that you carry with you all day, the Patriot Act, FISA and the servers in the desert that Snowden told us about.
Paints a really pretty, Orwellian future when combined with the fact that 80% of the US population are brainwashed by mainstream media, the corporatocracy, social media and the entertainment industry that all influence popular culture.
A majority populace in a consumer culture influenced by a bunch of people who pretend to be other people, living in an AI-controlled surveillance State with the illusion of individual liberty and independence. Sounds like a movie, but we'll be living it in the 2030s. Bookmark me.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:12 pm to Sofaking2
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Socialism always fails not free market capitalism.
This is a pretty absurd take. I agree that capitalism is the best system we currently have, but a model built on continuous growth is inherently inflationary (annual revenue/profits MUST increase).
That dynamic also puts pressure on labor costs. When one of the easiest levers for growth is lowering wages or holding them flat, you end up with a widening gap between a small group with resources and a much larger group without them.
AI is becoming the clearest example of this. Companies are racing to automate and displace as many roles as possible, not because the work disappears, but because reducing labor is one of the last remaining ways to boost the bottom line after everything else has been squeezed.
If anything, socialism sort of predicts this late-stage capitalism.
This post was edited on 4/30/26 at 8:17 pm
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:23 pm to weagle1999
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Our culture revolves around money and consumption foremost (I think).
Unlike Africans selling slaves from other tribes to Arabs? Unlike the East India Tea Company? Do you want to discuss Rome? Vikings, Normans, the Catholic church?
I didn't think you were this far divorced from logic and history. Maybe there were signs I missed.
Posted on 4/30/26 at 8:31 pm to weagle1999
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Another good point and related to a question I asked on here once: Is our economy just supposed to grow forever, into infinity? How is that sustainable?
Economic growth is simply a factor of the productivity of a human work hour increasing. Greater growth is a reflection of our desire to hedge against misfortune, make life easier, more enjoyable etc, for all people.
The fact that young workers and the middle class are struggling to afford a house and other things means that there is room for growth.
The struggle is not just about individual gains but for the general benefit of everyone. On top of that, we have to continue to seek meaning in life.
Having said all that, hardships are bound to come because that’s the nature of our existence. But let’s not go about the undermining and destruction of a system that grows wealth because we have lost sight of the purpose and mission of life.
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