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re: Is it possible to keep a country if almost everything is subservient to the profit motive?

Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

True capitalism is only realized through true competition.


Did you see the steps I laid out though?

Step 1: Business is successful

Step 2: Successful business uses profits to buy competitors

Step 3. Successful business dominates market share and creates barriers to entry (i.e. vertical integration) while continuing to use capital to buyout remaining competitors.

This the outcome of capitalism.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:11 pm to
quote:

True capitalism is only realized through true competition.


Did you see the steps I laid out though?

Step 1: Business is successful

Step 2: Successful business uses profits to buy competitors

Step 3. Successful business dominates market share and creates barriers to entry (i.e. vertical integration) while continuing to use capital to buyout remaining competitors.

This the outcome of capitalism.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
43914 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 5:44 pm to
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That's circular. Humanity went without hardly any "growth" for millennia.

Correct ... because our species was in survival mode, but the profit motive was still there.

You're trying to equate "profit motive' strictly to currency. Dollars and cents. Precious metals, stocks and financial worth.

But profit motives existed for millenia based strictly upon stability and security afforded to the females. Shelter, nourishment, protection. In turn, females provided hormone drive sexual gratification and offspring ... the continuation of the male genepool. It's nature, it's biblical, and it's profit motive.

Perhaps the biggest, and most basic profit motive, that exists.
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39872 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 7:24 pm to
quote:


You're trying to equate "profit motive' strictly to currency. Dollars and cents. Precious metals, stocks and financial worth.

But profit motives existed for millenia based strictly upon stability and security afforded to the females. Shelter, nourishment, protection. In turn, females provided hormone drive sexual gratification and offspring ... the continuation of the male genepool. It's nature, it's biblical, and it's profit motive.

Perhaps the biggest, and most basic profit motive, that exists.
I'm not sure what you're arguing, this seems like semantics.

IMO, the OP was trying to say (clumsily and with poor examples) is that everything in the country seems financialized and "gameified" to the max amount per unit of risk possible. Instead of how, in the old days, it might have been: "Let me set up this restaurant to have as great a food as possible and serve my customers well while also making a good profit", but is instead now: "what's the fastest way to race to the bottom where I can minimize every expense to the nth degree and do just enough to keep the next marginal consumer such that all that matters is profit".
Posted by dickkellog
little rock
Member since Dec 2024
2936 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Did you see the steps I laid out though?


child please you know less about capitalism than you do fornicating if it cost a nickle to schit you'd have to throw up.
Posted by DyeHardDylan
Member since Nov 2011
9757 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:05 pm to
Profit is a signal that consumers are happy with your product. The entrepreneurs who only do what they want without regard to consumer preference take losses. In a heavily distorted market where there are a lot of regulations and price controls or other government manipulation, those who are most effectively able to lobby the government are most successful.

The profit motive itself is not the problem, it is more of a monetary problem in that we are really addicted as a country to cheap money and borrowing. We’re a totally service oriented, consumer spending driven economy, and that isn’t sustainable. We have to be able to start saving and investing and creating things again.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61417 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:09 pm to
Americans get rich speculating now, not producing.
Posted by CDawson
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2017
20283 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 9:23 pm to
quote:

someone wanting to make more money.


It’s only greed when it’s someone else, right?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
16476 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:37 pm to
Absolutely the problem.

The shift from family owned businesses to corporate owned driven by the "stock holders".
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
10689 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 10:45 pm to
So what government program is going to fix it? Better yet, what government program will fix it that will be maintained through the idiotic 180s the voters do every few years.

That is the "non-extremists" who keep flipping back-and-forth by the way.
Posted by texridder
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Oct 2017
14944 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:00 pm to
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The economy changed because of the two house income situation and the tax for Democrat farms . It’s ruined alot

Democrat Farms.
Perhaps you'd like to expound on the Democrat Farms tax and just how it ruined everything.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70764 posts
Posted on 5/1/26 at 11:05 pm to
Welfare State
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