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re: Is anyone here in favor of, or support Flock cameras?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:58 am to TutHillTiger
Posted on 8/27/26 at 5:58 am to TutHillTiger
I do not understand the outrage of flock cameras If you own, carry and use a cell phone daily.
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Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:10 am to TutHillTiger
They don't disturb me
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:18 am to TutHillTiger
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I don’t understand how we went from 20k of them just a few years ago to like 400k now.
Who pays for them?
More importantly...who gets kickbacks for paying for them?
It's not that hard to figure out.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:34 am to TutHillTiger
I've been against ALPRs for a while but they have been around for decades now.
I'm at the point that not enough people fought against the surveillance state years ago that's it's too late.
I'm at the point that not enough people fought against the surveillance state years ago that's it's too late.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:39 am to TutHillTiger
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I don’t understand how we went from 20k of them just a few years ago to like 400k now.
Business opportunity. Good sales job by Flock Safety to the people who bought their product.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:40 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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They have helped reduce crime and catch criminals I am not a criminal so I don’t give a hoot that I’m being watched
What a GOPe quote.
“I don’t value my freedoms so you don’t get yours either.”
If you don’t understand how these are going to be used listening to the WEF you’re not worth arguing with.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I support them. It's a great way to engineer out crime. If people know they are going to get caught they will think twice before doing it. It will help people to not make stupid choices. It will also reduce the amount of time for law enforcement to solve crimes. Most importantly, it will hold cops accountable if they misuse the system.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:47 am to ArHog
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We have a shite ton of them installed down south in the Gulf Shores/OBA areas.
Same on 30A/PCB area despite virtually zero crime.
It’s not even remotely about stopping crime or else the cameras would be in different areas and those areas would have lower crime rates, it’s 100% about putting in place what they need to run a modern surveillance state which is why it was never even put out for public debate even in red areas.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:52 am to lurking
When I think about the 20,000 kids and seniors they have helped find, I can't help but be in support of them. Maybe I am a little different, but if someone is that bored to follow my simple life, go ahead.
Can it be misused? Sure. How about we start coming down harder on the people that are caught misusing it? But, you don't think people can hack business surveillance and ring cameras to follow you?
Can it be misused? Sure. How about we start coming down harder on the people that are caught misusing it? But, you don't think people can hack business surveillance and ring cameras to follow you?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:56 am to SDVTiger
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Whar do they do thats ppl melt so hard about them
loss of freedom in the name of security is neither free nor secure...
Posted on 8/27/26 at 6:58 am to dafif
Do you own a house? Have a camera at it?
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:06 am to TigerAllNightLong
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Fully support. I’d like a 100 in my neighborhood.
“We’ve identified the gorilla that broke into your house.”
Racism in action: image recognition technology still unable to differentiate black people from gorillas
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 7:09 am
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:09 am to TimeOutdoors
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Do you own a house? Have a camera at it?
Actually, no and no... sold the house years ago . I did buy a camera for the front but did not install it yet.
Not sure why security on my property is the same as 400,000 cameras monitoring your every movement.
And, no I do not have or use any of those fancy indoor apple or google things to connect everything and spy on you.
Just remember all the freedom we lost after 9-11 in the name of safety. That is how they win.
This post was edited on 8/27/26 at 7:11 am
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:11 am to lurking
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Take a guess which demographic here overwhelmingly does.
Id be you $1,000 it's white people.
Only thing black folks care about not wanting is shot spotter. Pretty sure most in the hood don't even know what flock is.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:12 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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HailHailtoMichigan!
I support them
They have helped reduce crime and catch criminals
I am not a criminal so I don’t give a hoot that I’m being watched
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:16 am to idlewatcher
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Id be you $1,000 it's white people.
Only thing black folks care about not wanting is shot spotter.
to el Gaucho's point, the camera can't tell them apart, so they don't care.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:17 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I am not a criminal so I don’t give a hoot that I’m being watched
Trump wasn't a criminal either, political intimidation is where flock can go sideways in a hurry.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:22 am to TutHillTiger
The power of Flock Cameras is like that of Guns and AI. Good if employed by good guys but bad if bad guys.
Being that the subjective nature of who/which ideology is in control of Formal Government power is in serious question as ‘voting’ (via illegal ballot harvesting) loses credibility, who knows how it shakes out. Likely that the Side (Capitalism v Socialism) that is most ruthless and willing to kill and die for their Cause will triumph. That is the historical norm, and there is little reason that current comfort and relative affluence for one side (Capitalism) can long afford to assuage the lack of ‘Equality’(DEI) on the other (Socialism) by open ended Debt and rampant inflation.
Big change coming any way we cut it.
Being that the subjective nature of who/which ideology is in control of Formal Government power is in serious question as ‘voting’ (via illegal ballot harvesting) loses credibility, who knows how it shakes out. Likely that the Side (Capitalism v Socialism) that is most ruthless and willing to kill and die for their Cause will triumph. That is the historical norm, and there is little reason that current comfort and relative affluence for one side (Capitalism) can long afford to assuage the lack of ‘Equality’(DEI) on the other (Socialism) by open ended Debt and rampant inflation.
Big change coming any way we cut it.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:34 am to TutHillTiger
It's complicated issue. On one hand, it can be a great tool to determine guilt if it captures a crime or could be a deterrent to crime. On the other hand, it can be a great tool to falsely accuse someone because they were on the camera near a crime.
Posted on 8/27/26 at 7:38 am to SDVTiger
Wait until the next lockdown and you'll see.
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