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re: Is a Juneteenth Federal Holiday Enough?

Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:42 am to
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:42 am to
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Blacks aren't free anymore?...


You released your slaves?
Posted by EllisD
Member since Feb 2009
888 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:44 am to
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My point is simply that the US literally dropped two nuclear bombs of the Japanese, and we were on friendly term with them well within a generation.


Because the Japanese people have dignity. Blacks have never wanted it.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27464 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:44 am to
I'm taking Saturday off to celebrate.
Posted by Hickok
Htown
Member since Jan 2013
2874 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:45 am to
Americans paid with their lives to end slavery in America. Maybe it’s time for all those ancestors of the freed slaves to pay it forward and fight a war in places like China, the Middle East and Africa to end the modern day slavery there, that is if they actually care about how bad slavery is and aren’t just trying to play perpetual victim with endless entitlements.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
8714 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:47 am to
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blacks have been far more destructive to American cities than if you just dropped a nuclear bomb on them 80 years ago


My point is simply that the US literally dropped two nuclear bombs of the Japanese, and we were on friendly term with them well within a generation.

It's been nearly 160 years since the Emancipation Proclamation and nearly 60 years since the Civil Rights Amendment, and yet to hear activists today things are worse of in America than at any tie in our history.

To say it's been long time to move on is an understatement of epic proportions.


I would love to have a time machine as well and transport Frederick Douglass to today and have him speak to the modern "Civil Rights Leaders" we have as they complain about how hard life has been for them and for blacks as a whole. Or maybe the ghost of the 1st black man to win the CMH who was a freed slave that ran into battle carrying the American flag.
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48477 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:49 am to
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Keep in mind, the US dropped actual nuclear weapons on Japan in 1945, and they got over it...


This is a profound Truth.

Meditation on this Truth provides a person with some deep insight into what is being done to the United States of America right before our very eyes.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 10:54 am to
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I would love to have a time machine as well and transport Frederick Douglass to today and have him speak to the modern "Civil Rights Leaders" we have as they complain about how hard life has been for them and for blacks as a whole. Or maybe the ghost of the 1st black man to win the CMH who was a freed slave that ran into battle carrying the American flag.


This brings up a thought I've had often recently.

There's the saying, "You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain." What about MLK? Obviously his message at the time was correct, and there's a reason it still resonates with normal people today. But the circle that surrounded him were guys like John Lewis and Jesse Jackson, who not too long after his death became race hucksters of the highest order.

Part of me wishes MLK had lived to see the huge progress that had been made and to stand up to what's been happening, but there's a part of me that wonders if he HAD lived would he have also taken the other road and sold his soul and the success of the people he said he was fighting for for a quick buck like his friends did?

At this point, I'm not even sure why black activists even bother celebrating MLK, since their messaging is 180 degrees in opposition to what he was preaching.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:05 am to
It's almost enough. If we can just get George Floyd carved into Mt. Rushmore everything will be cool.
Posted by Epaminondas
The Boot
Member since Jul 2020
4231 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:21 am to
The most important way that white people can "celebrate the spirit and legacy of Juneteenth is by learning about and committing to the struggle for black freedom"?

OK. Learn about it.

In the US, whites gave blacks their freedom. White people abolished slavery. Blacks didn't free themselves. This isn't Haiti.

Blacks got the right to vote because white people granted it to them. Segregation ended because white people decided to end it.
Posted by FlyingTiger1955
Member since Jan 2019
5765 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:26 am to
Nope need federal holidays for Rosa Parks, Medgar Evers, Thurgood Marshall, Barack Obama, Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglas and George Floyd. We have to get rid of Independence Day, Memorial Day, Veteran's Day, Columbus Day and Thanksgiving.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 12:49 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162258 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:32 am to
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At this point, I'm not even sure why black activists even bother celebrating MLK, since their messaging is 180 degrees in opposition to what he was preaching.


MLK envisioned a color blind society

The far left envisions a society where your identity and race are the ONLY important things
Posted by mule74
Watersound Beach
Member since Nov 2004
11309 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:35 am to
Of course not … lol. There will never be “enough”
Posted by LSUROXS
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
7165 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:41 am to
I love how their hero is a fentanyl junkie repeat criminal!
Posted by GooseSix
Member since Jun 2012
19539 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:44 am to
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hey are free, and I will celebrate that with them happily. Emancipation was a big event for this country.


Yeah it's too bad the majority of them still act like animals. Ungrateful frickers..
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
46338 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:50 am to
No! I gave a sensible and reasonable solution to all this month long celebrations of various factions in American society. We should set aside May-June for all Americans who feel oppressed, abused, unappreciated etc. I'm not sure what all the groups would be but let's begin with Black Americans, Hispanics/Latinos and LGBTQ....XYZ folks. This solution would also free February up for Oppressors Day aka Presidents Day.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
42774 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 11:54 am to
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Part of me wishes MLK had lived to see the huge progress that had been made and to stand up to what's been happening, but there's a part of me that wonders if he HAD lived would he have also taken the other road and sold his soul and the success of the people he said he was fighting for for a quick buck like his friends did?


I have had this same impulse at times myself. Mostly though I have wished that MLK had had more time to drill the "character vs skin color" ethos into the black community. I think his murder handed the movement over to true racists with noting in mind but raw political power using their horde of easily manipulated blacks as their shock troops.

I think all conservatives should resurrect the "character vs color" axiom and shout it loudly in the faces of any of any of these ignorant and amoral activists. Drown them out with Character Counts - not [u]Color[/u.

And add in the ROOT CAUSES = BREAKUP OF NUCLEAR FAMILIES
Posted by UcobiaA
The Gump
Member since Nov 2010
2816 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:01 pm to
At this point, all of the whining and rhetoric and grifting is getting boring.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112601 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 12:57 pm to
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Talk to anyone still around that remembers those days and they'll tell you it was essentially no different than Al Sharpton.


I was an adult and paying attention to MLK from his rise to his assassination. The one perspective that younger people are not taught about MLK is that he was in serious decline in popularity before his death.
The movement had been taken over by the black radical organizations...SNCC and Panthers. They didn't want integration. They wanted separatism.
They portrayed MLK as an Uncle Tom.

As soon as he was shot his value rose and the radicals went into decline. Early death has a way of saving people from what would have become mediocre careers. Hollywood is full of those people.

Marilyn Monroe was not a great actress. George Floyd was not going to medical school.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 1:03 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10471 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 2:56 pm to
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The one perspective that younger people are not taught about MLK is that he was in serious decline in popularity before his death.
The movement had been taken over by the black radical organizations...SNCC and Panthers. They didn't want integration. They wanted separatism.
They portrayed MLK as an Uncle Tom.


Sadly this is what happened with Malcolm X. In the beginning of his rise, he preached of separation and a black America. In the end, after exposure to others (mainly his pilgrimage to Mecca), he returned back entirely changed and focused on moving away from racial segregation to unity and seeing a person in their behavior rather than skin color. They killed him too, because he no longer fit their narrative of black supremacy.

In the end, it frustrates me to no end seeing these morons quoting Malcolm for their sick agenda and then basically spitting on what he believed in. Sad times.
Posted by Bulldogblitz
In my house
Member since Dec 2018
26792 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 3:13 pm to
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Make June the official Black History Month and let the gays have February.

This way, blacks get a longer month and the gays can't have their indecent exposure freak parades in the cold.

It's a Win-win. Everyone is happy.


Damn. Name this guy mayor! It's a big win!
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